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BIZ

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posted December 14, 2000 01:59 AM

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This is an email I recieved from a very good friend that I have been trying to get to view this board for a while.....

DUDE, THAT ELITE FITNESS BOARD IS ABOUT AS FUCKED UP AS A COUPLE OF DRUNK MONKEYS. POST A TOPIC AND THEN THEY TAKE IT DOWN WITHIN THE HOUR.
WHATS UP WITH THAT?

Do not flame this statement!! If you step back and take a look...
1. A newbie can not ask a question with out being flamed...How would you like to be stomped on because you asked the "wrong question...

I do not see a NEWBIES read here area on the board!

2. What is with all the damn deleting??? I am not on as much for the MOMENT...but I notice alot of that going on......

Stop the damn bashing already...

If one took that much time to bash and insted took it to help or learn from others we would not have comments like the one above..

For the 100,000,000,000,000,00,000,000,000 if you have a problem with someone take it to the email!!! I personaly do not get down with gossip.....

I refuse to let this board go down like that.....

Be careful on race, creed, and disrespect to board members that can have you banned from the board.....

KEEP ALL THIS IN MIND!!!

BIZ!!

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el cubano

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posted December 14, 2000 02:04 AM

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Hell Yeah! I know exactly what you mean! George created several different forums to keep the nonsense on the other boards, but people still post bullshit. Also, yes newbies should do research, but remember fellas, not everyone is as intelligent as you so take it easy and spread the wealth of knowledge. I mean shit, just the other day I had to ask Biz a question about anadrol!

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BIZ

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posted December 14, 2000 02:08 AM

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Yeah bro sorry I would go half a tab that is what I did twice a day some say 1/4 halfs worked fine from me El Cubano... How is that shoulder...Did you tell everyone here about how you dodged playing in my league (football) from the fear of getting runned over????? I am going to sleep now I am sure you have a good (lie) come back for it! LOL! LOL! How's the fam bro????


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WCP

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posted December 14, 2000 02:52 AM

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Hell I bug the hell out of E2 at times with questions I have no clue to, and there have been occasions that I forward my email to other mods to answer because I cant, shit Im still learning just as much as all of you.

As for the deleting, George, if there is a glitch that does this, or a specific time that the board automatically archives something I think it would be benificial to the bro's to let us all know how that works, fingers get pointed way too much.

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100PercentCanadianBeef

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posted December 14, 2000 03:49 AM

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bump...

I think most ppl missed this thread. Like the ones that replied to this thread: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/041094.html


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YAKUZA

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posted December 14, 2000 03:57 AM

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All questions become repetitive after a while, but they're still new to the person asking. Nobody would be here if when they were new they got flamed to hell and back for asking a simple question. Remember that next time you're unloading on someone for asking a question that they need an answer to.


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benzo27

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posted December 14, 2000 04:26 AM

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Good post. I have been here for a little while and I get tired of having to try and sort throught all the post that dont belong on this forum. I hope people can keep there non anabolic topics off this forum, like it used to be


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freak daddy

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posted December 14, 2000 06:48 AM

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props to BIZ.... i've thinking the same shit for 2 months. personally i would'nt post a topic on this board for the simple reasons that you stated, and some of the bullshit answers i can't believe i see on here sometimes. there are only a few people that post on here that i really watch for, and they don't post nearly enough. thanks again BIZ!

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nahanrac

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posted December 14, 2000 04:25 PM

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I agree. Everyone bitches about how this has turned into a soap opera, but if someone actually asks a question other members act like its a total pain in their ass and waste of their time. With no one answering questions the only thing left to do is this gossip bs.


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Dexter

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posted December 14, 2000 04:48 PM

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Except for the HIV and sometimes the Woman's boards, I practically never visit the other boards (including the EF "Select" board of which I am a member).

The Anabolic Discussion Board is primo. It is THE FORUM.

I remember (a year ago) the good old days when Newbies would announce themselves after lurking, and there would be respectful, welcoming replies. And they would get replies from the mods and vets.

And I recall the good old days when people would post, "Hey, bro's, here is my cycle" and get different and thoughtful replies on to which they would base their first cycles.

I haven't seen that for awhile. It seemed to me to stop after the crop of virtually unknown mods appeared (after solicitation on George's part for new mods).

But to all Newbies, you have my welcome. There is still honor on this board. And pardon my oversight of your (seldom) posts announcing yourselves and goals.

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Badkins21

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posted December 14, 2000 05:00 PM

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I agree, bro's...the board has "slipped," but we can still get it back to where it was! Let's keep it up!!

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slabcat

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posted December 14, 2000 05:07 PM

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I agree the tone on this board has been a little harsh of late. But it's difficult to respond civilly to new bros with six posts asking openly for sources, or I'm on my third week of a deca only cycle what should I expect from it, oh and by the way my dick's dead. I know we were all new at one time but some of these guys coming in have got to use some common sense, and they have to be willing to do some work and research for themselves. I for one will follow Biz's example and try to be more patient and friendly with new guys questions. Just some friendly advice. When somebody directs you to the search feature or the archives, IT IS NOT A FLAME OR A RUDE ANSWER! It's because the question has been asked 1000's of times before and there's lots of good info available to read rather then have them become frustrated that their post drops off the board with no response. There's an unbelievable amount of good info that can be taken advantage of. Just my thoughts on this. Good luck to all.

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gary

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posted December 14, 2000 05:19 PM

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I agree 100%.


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CPfinest

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posted December 14, 2000 05:24 PM

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Well im not a newbie.....i have been with board for over a year now....had to change screenames though..And just because it says cool Novice under the name, some of the SO CALLED BIG DOG'S on the board always say do a search.....WHAT BULL SHIT? IM asking a question amoung guys who do roids... Thats enough search for me..If the BIG Dogs dont like ans ques.... Then why or they on the board....I know just as much as all these guys, but sometimes you like to hear from a fellow roider to get his opinion on certain things...I have a Post right now that not many people have checked out, REASON BEING, it says COOL NOVICE under my name....I think this board is great, but we needs the people with Extensive knowledge to share the wealth...

"If you have to talk about how bad you are, then obviously your not big enough, SO SHUT UP AND LIFT, and let your body speak for itself"


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BIZ

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posted December 14, 2000 06:08 PM

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IT IS NOT A FLAME OR A RUDE ANSWER! It's because the question has been asked 1000's of times before and there's lots of good info available to read rather then have them become frustrated that their post drops off the board with no response. There's an unbelievable amount of good info that can be taken advantage....

Very well stated...I would like to know who thinks that only there answer to this question asked amillion times is the correct one.......

If you do not like the fact that the question is asked over and over sip to the next post...simple as that...The statement is made that well the reason I reply so harsh and rude is because they keep asking well shit your bumping it up with the stupid reply.....I am for banning people that are very disrespectful towards others...We were all newbies at one time some take longer to catch on than other...especially when it comes to something that can cause horrible damage if not done correctly!!!

Something to think about!!

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timac

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posted December 14, 2000 06:14 PM

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and to add to BIZ,
when the mods, or the gurus see your question has been answered, they won't bother. so don't get upset thet your question has only 2, 3, or 5 replies.
If they see the answer was good enough, they will not waste their time by stating the same thing.

Don't worry, the gurus and mods will not let someone get away with giving bogus answers.


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CPfinest

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posted December 14, 2000 06:21 PM

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IM all for doing research..You need to aleast no the basics of what you are inquiring about. ANd i know that the real smart guys probably wont even look a a question as basic as Do i inject? or shit like, Whats sustanon 250? LOL But alot of it is there your on the computer now chattin with some Bro's that have the same intrest as you..If i can help someone out with some of my past experiences, i will.. Regardless of its its already been posted.. Thats why the board in here..Its not called a RESEARCH BOARD.. Its called a DICUSSION BOARD.


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Dexter

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posted December 14, 2000 06:36 PM

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BIZ, you are 100 correct about the informtion that is readily avalable.

And every one should do his or her research. After all, it's medicine we're putting into our bodies.

And most of the information is readily available on the Internet. Most (excerpt Omna from my experience) is current, too.

With some people I just don't understand it, and it's freaking important.

Yet there are still (hopefully welcomed) Newbies who need to learn -- and from whom do they learn if not a serious player, vet, or mod? Other than from the standard profiles (important) on the Internet.

By the way, there are some bloody good profiles out there,and they don't require "membership" to access such as on EF.

There are just too many people out there, dealing in the local gym or whatever, who don't act respsonsibly.

You and I are different,of course. Yet responsible.

To me injecting any old shit is potential suicide; no differnent than casually taking recreational drugs and not knowing the composition.

We need to welcome the Newbies and give them proper guidance, including doing their own damned research.

Dexter


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el cubano

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posted December 14, 2000 06:45 PM

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Dam Biz! If I could have made it up there to play I would have! I guess that in a way it's a good thing I didn't, with the bum shoulder and all.

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posted December 14, 2000 06:53 PM

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Bumping for the BIZ......... "B"


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Saizen

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I was waiting for this post for quite some time now. I do not post much, firstly because my job takes most of my day and secondly, because of the lack of respect of certain individual toward other members. All questions are important and constructive criticism is always a must. But to insult and utterly disrespect a member is downright wrong. Regardless of the amount of times the question has been asked. Like Biz said "slip to the next post".
For example, lets take into account the thread of that girlfriend who wrote about how she does not want her boyfriend to take AS. Man, can you say "derogatory nomenclatures". Wow, I wasn't aware that one simple question could result in a similar bashing. I can assure you that this board is very fun at times, intelligent and informative, but some people really need to be "ejected" I belong to another board -not related to steroids- were disrespecting a member, I.E name calling, will result in being banned. They rule by the "three strikes your out law". Maybe the mods should consider the latter. Only my thought though.

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posted December 14, 2000 07:43 PM

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Yeah, I thought that 'usersgirl' post was really fucked up. What kind of stereotype are we potraying there? True, the girl angered me as well saying 'he will not be doing steroids,' but look at why she said that. It seems like some people on here for the primary reason of flaming anyone they can, with AS discussion being secondary...


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THE SMACK

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posted December 14, 2000 07:51 PM

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thank you.. finally someone realizes what happens to the people who dont know as much as the pros... i mean yes my questions probably sound stupid.. but how else am i gonna know if someone doesnt at least fill me in... if u think the questions the newbies ask are so bad bash them on emails not in the board...


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FtLauderdale

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posted December 14, 2000 08:45 PM

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Bump for my Big Bro BIZ


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BIG HURT

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posted December 14, 2000 08:48 PM

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I'm glad this was posted by a MOD.If it were anyone else,they would be chastised and ridiculed off this board,by these so called "EXPERTS",who having nothing better to do than FLAME newbies' for asking questions.

I wonder if a MOD. threw out a question,for an opinion,if HE or SHE would be told to do a search??????????????Doubt it.Maybe the MODS.,should post some basic questions every now and then,to sort of "set the tone"

Maybe more guys,would not be afraid to ask their questions then,which could possibly save a guy alot of agony or grief worrying about what is on their mind.

We all need to pitch in and help.I know some questions can be answered by doing a search,but it always puts your mind at ease when you can have your question answered in real time.

That's what will keep this board "THE BEST"
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Res

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Sometimes you have to be harsh, (not rude) with the young pups, they can be overzealous at times, but they do learn if you tell them, DO THE RESEARCH. Good thread guys.Later, Bob P.S. I'm a newby here ( all my boards have been shut down) but I'm no newby to gear. Just need a new home.


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Spunky

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posted December 14, 2000 08:53 PM

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first off.. newbies don't know to do a search when they come on the board, so lets try to stop bashing stupid questions.


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I'll bump this fer ya Brutha BIZ-MAN....Sterted that liver killing cycle yet....heh heh heh...

And Timac is right, I usually don't answer if the thread has several correct replies...why waste the space...

I can't help everyone, but I help as many as I can.....

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posted December 15, 2000 07:50 PM

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bump


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posted December 15, 2000 08:12 PM

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Bump dizz for DA BIZ !!!

Like dat sig:

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posted December 15, 2000 08:29 PM

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Hey, some one told me that drinking winny is just as good as shooting it.. is that true?

<just kidding>

LOL


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thesuperstar

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posted December 15, 2000 10:49 PM

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damn right.

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I agree wit Biz. Also, alot of times I think guys will post something thats been answered before, but they are just looking for re-asurrance that what they are going to do is right. We all haven't stuck ourselves before and its a big step. I appreciate having this board to read, but when I post my 1st cycle and ask for imput, its because I want to make sure. Even though the answer has been given 1,000,000,000 times. And if thes guys didn't respect the opinions of the boaard they would'nt risk the flames that come with asking "newbie" questions. Patience my fellow iron heads. Patience.

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Lift Or Die

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posted December 16, 2000 12:32 AM

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I agree with you guys 100%. This is a good post that everyone should read and learn from.


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wizardnor

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posted December 16, 2000 01:28 AM

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Good post help the newbies to become iron warriors i need help to some times

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bigrand

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posted December 16, 2000 01:34 AM

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i agree with the BIZ %100. Newbies come here to learn about somthing they know nothing about. If you think about it, where else can they learn these things? Everyone was a newbie once, nobody was born witha gram of test in a pin in their ass.


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rainhorn

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posted December 16, 2000 08:45 AM

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bump,
biz is very right.

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back2basics

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posted December 16, 2000 08:57 AM

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DAMN GOOD TOPIC, BIZ!!!!!! I TOTALY AGREE!!

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BigGuns2

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posted December 16, 2000 10:22 AM

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Bump for Biz. Good post by the way.

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bad brains

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posted December 16, 2000 11:31 AM

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BUMP this for BIZ...........

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yiyangzhi

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posted December 16, 2000 11:55 AM

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I have learnt alot from this board, because there are many here who share their knowledge/expertise willingly. This board's a treasure trove of firsthand info, and hopefully, continue to be so.


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ThePitbull

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posted December 16, 2000 11:58 AM

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A big BUMP for BIZ!!!

I agree 100%.

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posted December 16, 2000 01:03 PM

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100% RIGHT...ALWAYS ON YOUR SIDE


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