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flex2000

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posted December 13, 2000 10:28 PM

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I just took my second shot of Test E I was wondering if its ok to go on creatine too? Also is it ok to have sex while on roids I didnt know if it through ur test levels off?
Thanks


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KODIAK99

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posted December 13, 2000 10:31 PM

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How old r u? Just curious. . .the sex question has me a little confused. By the way get ready to get slammed by some of the bro's. You may want to rethink and rewrite this question.

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ultragainz

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posted December 13, 2000 10:33 PM

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well bro take it with roids if you want but dont take to much and yes you can still have sex.lol.keep the clomid handy.how much test you takeing and for how long?

P.S. GAME OVER!!!!!!!!!


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timac

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posted December 13, 2000 10:42 PM

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WTF!
I don't think its us you need to ask permission to have sex.

is it ok to have sex?
NO ,YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED!


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thebull

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posted December 13, 2000 10:47 PM

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My Dad was a power lifter and i asked him the same question about juice and creatine. he is not familiar with the new drugs today so could not help me, as he is old school, so i am anxious to know what people say. However i used creatine and juice anyway i had great gains and put on alot of mass and strength. but I had to drink lots and lots of water and eat lots of potassium because creatine dehydrates the body and gave me muscle cramps, i also took zinc and magnessium read something about it rebuliding cells and increasing test levels and all sorts of other bs, if thats true couldnt tell you. Anyway about sex go ahead you have to release the build up its only natural. Plus when i was on juice and didnt bust a nut for a while i could tell my aggresion level was higher but when i let the boys out calm as river.. well i am curious to what everyone says. later


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freak daddy

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posted December 13, 2000 10:47 PM

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i can't believe flex wheeler is asking us questions....lol...!

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Busy_Mind

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posted December 13, 2000 10:58 PM

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Don't have sex bro, it's really really bad for you... it'll deplete you of all your test and you'll shrivel up into a fuckin' prune! LMAO

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Daeo

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posted December 13, 2000 11:07 PM

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I love this question...

You build your body up to attract girls but you can't have sex with them because it will effect your test levels??? What a dilemma!!

Sex increases test levels for a short peroid of time so fuck away buddy...


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ArnoldWannaBe

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posted December 13, 2000 11:15 PM

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Hey Flex,

Having sex is fine, just do it with a partner next time.


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thesuperstar

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posted December 13, 2000 11:36 PM

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no need for creatine, thats what AS is for, but if you must, then make sure you drink a lot of water, you should also cycle creatine like AS. oh, watch out for the hairy palms.

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Mass Monster

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posted December 14, 2000 12:02 AM

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Yea partners always help!

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mike peters

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posted December 14, 2000 01:59 AM

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give her THE DICK as much as you can


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meathead011

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posted December 14, 2000 02:27 AM

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i think that the creatine adds to water retention, but sex is always a plus!

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Sabahouns

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posted December 14, 2000 04:05 AM

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do listen to them dude these old guys here wishing they can get some of the ass us youngins get. Anyway i read that after sex ur test levels actually increase if that helps any. Also creatine can help u retains gains after a cycle.
sabas


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Mr.Lean

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posted December 14, 2000 12:23 PM

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If you're taking test E, sex isn't going to anything to your test production. You don't have any test production while using test E.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 14, 2000 01:13 PM

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Hi Flex.Here's your answer on the creatine.This is an old post of mine......Hey fellas.Just dug up an interesting read out of one of my old Ironman mags.The following excerpts are providided by the notorious Michael Gundill(a.k.a. Dharkam)....Although creatine does have testosterone-like effects,it doesn't act as a steroid hormone.Instead,it's a mediator of some of the androgens' anabolic effects.In fact,steroid users get far more out of their cycles if they take in massive amounts of creatine along with the drugs.Androgens are among the hormones that can force the entry of creatine into muscle cells.While there's a clear relationship between muscle strength gains and increases in muscle creatine stores,unfortunately,the relationship is not as obvious when it comes to increases in muscle mass.Animal-based studies have shown that the muscles of untrained rats take up as much creatine as the muscles of trained rats,but the ANABOLIC effects of creatine are only obvious in trained rats.Therefore,training increases the muscles sensitivity to the anabolic actions of creatine.(Although it's not related to this article,the study also demonstrated that the anabolic effects of creatine are DIRECT,and not mediated by waterretention.In fact,in the 1970s American and Russian studies pointed out a DIRECT anabolic effect of creatine on muscle cells.)Testosterone increases the muscles'sensitivity to the anabolic properties of creatine in addition to enhancing the creatine buildup in muscle fibers.It's also obvious that part of the strength gains people experience while on steroids are mediated by an increase in muscle creatine stores.An interesting discovery A/S users have made is that they should dramatically increase their creatine intake during a cycle to boost the potency of the steroids.Thanks to creatine,people can build more muscle mass with fewer drugs.Anecdotal evidence from A/S users points out that it takes at least 10-15 grams(maintenance)of creatine a day to visibly enhance the the anabolic potency of a steroid stack.There are probably good reasons for the increased creatine requirement when androgen levels are high.As mentioned above,steroids increase the muscle uptake of creatine,and if the muscles are ready to accept more creatine,why not give it to them?I also think that even though steroids enhance creatine synthesis,they may increase creatine degradation as well-so more creatine is used up every day.That could be due to an increase in muscle creatine turnover and also the fact that an elevated muscle protein synthesis rate will likely consume creatine at a faster rate.Other reasons for a higher creatine requirement may be indirect.Because the muscles of drug users are stronger and receive more training,they may waste greater amounts of creatine during training.Once inside the muscle,creatine provides not only an anabolic effect,but also a rapidly mobilized source of fuel.Muscle protein synthesis is a process that wastes great amounts of energy.Anabolism is an ATP-dependent process,which means that it's essential for protein synthesis.If the cellular level of ATP is reduced even a little,IT STOPS ANABOLISM.So even if you can increase the testosterone content of your muscles,nothing will happen if your ATP level is low.Creatine supports anabolism by providing energy to the muscle...Well fellas,it looks like it might be a good idea to stock up on creatine when you're grabbing your protein powder for those bulking cycles,hehheh....Huck


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bigpun

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posted December 14, 2000 01:54 PM

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Good post huck.


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ROIDRANGER

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posted December 14, 2000 03:13 PM

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thanks HUCK that cleared up alot for me and im glad i have a shit load of creatine to go w/ the shit load of test im about to take!!

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 14, 2000 10:23 PM

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Up for flex....


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plifter

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posted December 14, 2000 10:43 PM

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You should take some Cell-Tech with it too


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BLOODTIDE

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posted December 15, 2000 12:59 AM

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Thanks, great info!


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Kingwinny

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posted December 15, 2000 01:35 AM

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Great info Huck, ur the man


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Tomo

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posted December 15, 2000 02:29 AM

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alright huck ill go with it- against my better judgement- only cuz you da man- tomoh


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