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Author | Topic: The Difference between 500mgs and 1000mgs of test. | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
This one has probably been posted before but I just had to, so the difference is RESULTS ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1094 |
1,000mg - 500mg = 500mg Therefore the difference between 500mg and 1000mg of test would be 500mg of test. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1391 |
Twice the cost and a bit more gains. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 143 |
Some more sides and risks! Mass Monster ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
lol @ Spunky. Mass monster, personally I dont believe by using twice the amount of test (500 compared to 1000 mgs) will have the same proportion of sides, I dont think by using 1 gram you will get far more sides than by using 500mgs. And yes there is the issue of the cost but test in England is cheap as hell. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try [This message has been edited by The_Iron_Game (edited December 13, 2000).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 5657 |
There isn't much of a diff in sides until you pass about 2000mg, the only difference is in gains. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 204 |
Like it.Just about to inject 500mgs sust before hitting dreamland.Third week,starting to kick in.Beautiful. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Moderator ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1895 |
I don't think there is much of a difference in sides between 500 and 1000. The gains are pronounced at the higher levels. There is that 'gray' area in most people where gains do not increase in proportion to injections. I for one see little if any gains in anything over 1500 mg/wk. 1000 mg/wk over the years seems to be perfect for me. I wouldn't say that my gains are double in the 500 vrs 1000 range but there is a big difference. BPP ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 160 |
Again,I think it depends from person to person.The friend of mine from injecting 500mg of sust gets such a blood pressure he walks in gym like cooked lobster.I can't possibly imagine him surviving 1gram. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Freak ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 1609 |
Spunky, very funny. . It depends obviously on the individual, training and caloric intake. There is also a reasonable saturation point at which you are simply stressing your kidney's and liver because you are not going to process any more test or any other AS for that matter. Sides, will certianly be more pronounced but depending again on the individual. I haven't seen any major difference from 1 gram and 500mgs, in side effects, perhaps more grease on my skin and less sleep, but the overall gains difference for me was quite dramatic, perhaps too much so, I feel I had trouble keeping them at higher AS levels and was more prone to injury due to overtraining. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 160 |
If anybody interested in Dave Palumbo's opinion on this,please,read: http://www.mesomorphosis.com/exlusive/palumbo/vol01/981215.htm [This message has been edited by panerai (edited December 14, 2000).] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 163 |
personally...I'll probably never do less than a gram again. Mike ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 42 |
Hmmmm...I competed and won at a high level using only Zambons and 8 susts total,and at a big contest tapered down to Primo,Zambons,and a low dose of Halo...so I'd have to say bullshit,as my highest dose of test was 500 mg.,and only for 2-3 weeks. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 426 |
quote: In wich weight class -100Ib??? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
You are claiming you got great results of test at 500mgs/wk for 2-3 wks? Maybe it wasnt test but parabolan instead. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 204 |
Answer-About ten quid bro LOL!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 621 |
E2 whats the most test per week youve ever used in a cycle? ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 831 |
More gains, with the sides being about equal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 193 |
It would be better to stack 500mgs with deca or eq rather then twice the does. ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 831 |
Ronin - I agree with you, but that isn't the point of this thread.
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Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 42 |
Painkiller...light-Heavy Weight is your answer,don't blame me for your shitty genetics. ![]() ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 226 |
i never do more than 600 mgs of test - creative stacking and pay attention to other parts of program- my friends that do much more are not much bigger- and the risk of sides goes up-tomo ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
I did not feel shit from 500mg sustanon, maybe got 10 pounds (2-3 muscle) and 10 pounds on the bench at max. This time I will be doing a gram of cyp for almost 6 weeks (stacked with other shit of course) (changed up my cycles a little) so this time I better gain MUCH more. Some people say 1 gram of sust can be equal to about 400-500mg cyp, if this is true, i'm heading in for a monster cycle! I will post my results though, as I'm pretty much excited about all this. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 42 |
Skin88 your gear must have been garbage then.I got more results than that while dieting,and just using Zambons.Not being a prick,that is just sad results.peace ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 134 |
Zambons are the king. I reserve comment on test...I'm not a big guy. But I sure wish I had some of those Zambons....damn.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
no shit, i told my source, he didn't get it. All his customers were getting great gains off of it. Everyone's different. I'm just posting what I feel about 500mg test. Go figure. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 132 |
Hmmm, The difference is wimps do 500mg and men do 1000+ And as an off subject naposim is the fucking shit i love it i. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
Lol @ Mikai, personally I am never going to do less than 1000mgs again. I am currently on week 3 and results are amazing. Cant wait to finish and take photos. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
Iron Game, what test are you on and are stacking? How far up are you on strength/size? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
Hey Skin, I am on 1 gram of testoviron depot for 9 wks, first wk was with anadrol, 2nd, 3rd and 4th wk with dbol, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th 9th wk with winny (50mgs/day) and going to add fina in there at 300mgs/wk alongside the test and winny.
------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 551 |
The sides are the same? I would think that with 1000mg opposed to 500mg,there would be more test to aromatize... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 32 |
iron, are you taking arimidex with it? i'm kinda lost on this issue of arimidex man. If i am taking a gram of cyp with dbols and other shit i would need either 60mg nolva or 1/2 tab ED of arimi but it will kill water retention, don't i need that for strength? and how doesn't it cut into gains if nolvadex does? kinda weird, if this doesn't get answered though, i'll post it on a new topic. thanks. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
Hey recoome, I am sure 1 gram does armoatize more than 500mgs. However by using proviron you can prevent the armotization ad by using nolva you can prevent the effects of when it does armatize. Skin, I dont know too much about Armidex, I have never used it because #1 it is so god damn expensive and # 2 dont know anyone who sells it in the UK. I am currently using Proviron and my strength is going through the roof. I am not quite sure the exact chemical structure it uses it order to prevent the aromatization so I cant say how much strength gains are effected by using it. It is beneficial in my opinion to have some water for my joints and so on, but as for your question I cannot answer it, bump for the vets and gurus. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 132 |
Iron one i think i know how you are feeling rightr now check this cycle out its what im doing right now
I can see size gains already just 2 weeks in i love it...! Did i tell you that i think naposim is great..! ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 42 |
Skin88,if you've used shit before,and know what to expect from it,then I'd say there's cause for concern.I doubt these other guys were just using one thing.I could be mistaken though.I knew this guy who was 6'2",and could NEVER get above 212-215,no matter how much sh_it he did.It got to the point that he couldn't crank anymore because he just got sick.He started out at 135 lbs. though.I guarantee that 1 gram works much better than 500 mg.,but I quit competing for the exact reason that I didn't want to keep up with the Joneses. ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 28 |
This is going on 2 far ------------------ ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Elite Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 631 |
Seems like a great cycle M1Kai, just wondering if you have done cycles that length before and if you have ever done longer ones? ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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