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SMS

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posted December 13, 2000 08:19 AM

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Ok, this topic may have been beat into the ground, but bear with me. Also, the old topics I seached about this were mainly people yelling at whomever was asking.

You may have seen my post yesterday about a cycle for my bro, well it turns out, he totallt against using usind needles. I try to tell him if you wanna get serious, injections are what you gotta do. He won't listen when I say a lot of orals are harsh on the system too.

Anyway, he's been buggin the shit outta me for something that could get him 20lbs in his 165lbs frame. Any suggestions. Please no flames.


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KINGKONG69

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posted December 13, 2000 08:37 AM

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ANADROL, OR DBOL WILL PUT THE WEIGHT ON, BUT HE WONT KEEP IT.


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raybob

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posted December 13, 2000 08:57 AM

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He could do B-Bol for 6 weeks, but like said above he will lose a lot of it. My suggestion is until he gets over his fear of needles just stay natural. P.S. SMS does that have anything to do with SMSU?


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SMS

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posted December 13, 2000 09:24 AM

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Naw, SMS are just my initials. I told him the injects aren't that bad, but he's pretty adamant about this. It 20lbs realistic? Can clomid help keep his gains?


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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 13, 2000 09:30 AM

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Winny, Ananvar, Dbol. Perhaps sub the Dbol for primo tabs. Its gonna be an expensive cycle though and he is gonna wish he wasnt a wuss and could inject.

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SMS

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posted December 13, 2000 09:35 AM

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I'll admit, I was nervous about injecting at first, but after a few times, I got used to it. What kind of doses of the primo tabs should be taken?


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KINGKONG69

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posted December 13, 2000 09:41 AM

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REALLY, YOUR GONNA SPEND A LOT OF MONEY ON A ORAL CYCLE, AND GET HALF THE GAINS AS YOU WOULD INJECTING, NOT TO MENTION THE STRESS ON THE LIVER. ITS REALLY NOT WORTH IT.


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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 13, 2000 09:41 AM

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It is possible to get them in 50mg tabs but very rare and difficult. More common is the 5mg tabs and should take about 350-400mgs/wk.

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Judge Smales

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posted December 13, 2000 09:51 AM

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I think his solution is transdermal tren and dbol. The Dbol for about 5 weeks, tren for 8-9. I't gonna beat the crap out of his liver and kidneys, but- no needles.


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SMS

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posted December 13, 2000 10:32 AM

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I don't think familiar with any transdermals. I know what they are, but what doses are used, etc?


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Judge Smales

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posted December 13, 2000 10:47 AM

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fitnessfreak

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posted December 13, 2000 10:54 AM

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I almost hate to admit it untill all is said and done and I can give my results post cycle to see how much I keep my gains.

But I am at Week 6 of a dbol/fina/proviron cycle. Starting to taper down now with clomid. Started at about 198 pounds and up to almost 220 now. My diet is OK but more fat than I should have been....trying to bulk now. And I think using the Proviron witht he dbol was the key because the waterweight and bloating is at a minimum.

Im almost disappointed.....gained over 20 pounds in a month and my wife dont really notice until I taky my shirt off.

I realize that I am shorting myself by not using injectibles....maybe in the future.

But I think anyone would be pleased as I will If I can atleast keep 15 pounds....will let you know the results.

between the tapering, fina, proviron, clomid, diet, creatine, and glutamine post cycle I think i have a good chance.

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posted December 13, 2000 12:37 PM

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nobu

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posted December 13, 2000 02:15 PM

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my buddy did a cycle with 300 dbols, some clomid at the end, and anavar throughout the last week of dbol and two more weeks after, and gain 15-20 lbs, and he still has it all, it cost him about $400, most of it was from the ox, obviously. but like everyone said, injectables are cheaper and more effective.


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posted December 13, 2000 02:47 PM

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He said he doesn't care if it costs more, or if the gains won't be as great. I'll have to get him on here so you guys can flame him


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Busy_Mind

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posted December 13, 2000 03:15 PM

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oh damn, flaming him would be a pleasure... it's a real shame your pet wants to be in this game but doesn't want to inject, but it's personal preference I suppose. Anyways, I think using some winstrol might do him some good, taken orally of course. Watch out for that liver though bro, make sure he take proper precautions and uses all the liver-savers as needed.

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8pack

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posted December 13, 2000 03:32 PM

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Taking any steroid is a gamble. But orals only are very very harsh on the liver. A buddy o mine was pin-phobic took d-bal only and got a shitload of really nasty achne all over his back neck and face. It's still there. We now call him pizza face. To those of you who have used d-bal successfully congrats! All the people I know that use it gain only water.


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Mass Monster

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posted December 13, 2000 03:42 PM

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Yea bro, orals are awesome but they aren't always the safest route to go just look into and listen to everybodys thoughts, I think u would be all set with an all oral cycle just don't take too high of doses and be ready for some sides!

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