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Moderator 
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Someone give me some info on the differences between ara and the sust / omna connection. Maybe I'm mising something here. Are the gains equal ? Going price about $50 ? BPP     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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I personally havent' done any of these products, so I won't make up any bullshit.LOL. But i will bump this up for you, so it doesnt' get lost over night. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
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Correct me if I'm wrong,but all of them are 250mg of Testosterone.Of course if you inject the same amount and do it correctly with each of them you'll get same gains.If you can get ara for $50,that's good,my source had it for $65 and sold out. | ||
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Guru
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The aratest is only 2 test blend 50mg prop and 200mg enanthate, I know you know sus/omna is 4 esters blend. Other than that the ara comes in a 10ml bottle (beats the hell out of the redis) and is a shit load cheaper. Around $30 or so in TJ and you know how black market pricing goes. Its a good product. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Slopain,so what's better,aratest or omnadren? Which one will give me more gains? | ||
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Guru
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I think they both will wind up giving you the same gains. Many will argue that omna or sus is a higher quality test blah blah, but when it comes down to it they have about the same mg per ml and all three are excellent choices. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Tried to trap you into long and nasty disscusion,hehe...you're good,hehe... Sorry,it's boring,midle of the night,can't sleep...I'll catch you later. | ||
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Guru
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lol | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
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I get a little bigger and stronger off ara. The blend of prop and enan work well for me. Sus or omna will have a little less water retention, which will lead to a little drop in strength and size. Just my take on them | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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If you know how esterization works, you will see that you actually get more testosterone mg per mg with ARA test, because of the extremely heavy Deconate ester in new Omna/Sust. This would lead to better gains I beleive, but your body may like longer acting tests, so there's a variable to be thrown in. -MO ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
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What about test levels staying elevated with the Sus vs. Aratest? I dont really understand all that mumbo jumbo yet, so could someone edjucate me please? I recieved great gains off the Aratest with my first cycle. I am on a sus cycle now, but I dont think the mgs are high enough. Let me know what you guys think. Thanks ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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bump i would like to know a little about this ara buisness myself i cant decide on ara or just t50 and test200 | ||
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Moderator
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Go with Sustenon/Omna for the best gains. Once again, I just want to say that the type of steroid is not nearly as important as diet, training, and sleep. You will get great gains from any test/gear if you do the 3 things above correctly. | ||
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Moderator
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Got all of them in my shoe box as we speek. T200, aura, omna's, and susts. We could all argue til blue in the balls, but each product is good and has it's place. My bottom line IS the bottom line. I tend to by what's on sale. I'm sure some folks will tend to find a happy nitch with one or the other - we each are different and respond differently. Right now I'm a aura fan, it's not as expensive vs. susts/omna's and no amps! The T200 is ok with me too, just 50mg short per cc vs. aura/sust/omna's, but hell, this is a small thing. As was stated ubove, diet and training make up for any small difference in gear. ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Guru
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I agree with 2Thick on diet/training/rest being the key, of course I don't agree with sus/omna giving you any more significant gains. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Moderator
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Slopain, This is a very subjective topic that we discuss. I hope I do not have to end every sentence with "�n my opinion" since I thought that was implicitly understood. BTW- Deca rules!! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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Science is not subjective. With ARA having more test per mg than any of that others, it is clearly going to be more effective in the majority of individuals. Simply put, 187mgs of test over 3 weeks will not be as effective as 221mgs of test over 7-10 days. -MO ------------------ | ||
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Guru
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2Thick: I'd like you to edit your reply to my post to read: btw: In my warped opinion, deca rules!! lol Mean One: Now without getting all defensive on me, can you please explain what your trying to say: there seems no point to argue that 200mg over 3 weeks wont be as effective as 200mg over 7-10 days... although the ara has slightly higher prop in it (50 compared to 30 or 35 for the sus/omna) that won't make that much of a difference at all. We are not talkin suspension mg's vs enanthate mg's here.. If I misunderstood you let me know, I saw that you said ara has more mg of test per ml than sus/omna, but the next sentence I dont understand what your trying to say. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Moderator
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MeanOne, If you do not know that cycling and dosing with AS is not 99% subjective then you have much to learn about this game. If you think that you and I will react identically to the same dosage then you are mistaken. BTW- Science is very subjective when it comes to the physiological mechanisms in the human body since no two people will react the same way to an identical stimulus. The best science can do is generalize and hope for congruence in most cases. Slopain, LOL... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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If science was so much of a risk, we would not be able to send eople to the moon with the accuracy in which we do. If science was such a game of rolling the dice, and everyone was so different, the same operation woudl not be able to save people in identical situations. Now then, yes people will react differently to gear, but your failing to make a very important common bond...we are talking about the same active ingredient: TESTOSTERONE. If you have two people who react identically to testo, then my pionts will hold valid across the board providing the body has the properly means to carry out growth. Now, if we were comparing Aratest and Nor200...your right, people would react differently. Thanks, ROFL ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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MeanOne There seems to be a failure to communicate. I assume that you are an optimistic, bright eyed, 20 year old. Therefore I can understand why you see the world in a naive light. As for the moon landing, it took many years and countless attempts to get it right one time (for the US). Also remember the lost Mars Rover? It is a very expensive roll of the dice. As for operations, up until the last 20 years, you had about a 60-80% mortality rate if you 'went under the knife' (as opposed to not getting surgery). We must create generalities to overcome statistically impossible variables and options but that does not mean "one size fits all". Each surgery must be tailored to the patient (according to a general guideline). Just because someone says something does not make it true. Surgery is a huge gamble (even today), space travel is a huge expensive gamble, and so are many other things The Man wants you to think are controlled and under their influence. As for gear and speaking in bio-chem terms, yes, there may be more free test in Ara versus Sust but that is statistically insignificant when it comes to the difference it will make in gains. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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O,boy....I new it! | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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aratest has 50mg of test prop vs 30 in the sus. It makes you more sore that sus or omna does. I love aratest because you don't have to mess with those amps. Ara comes in 3 different kinds so be sure you get the ara2500, which is the 250mg. It also makes you hold a little more water than sus does which I like...thats about it go with ara for the money you can't beat it..later | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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I will now handle this in email. I'm curious to know your credentials besides being a mod. -MO | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
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um, excuse me, meanone, did you just question 2thicks cradentials?? are you dumb? yes, you are, you are very dumb. just give 2thick enough space to write on and you'll see what he's saying, just don't ask me to elaborate. layed ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
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he has all the room he wants, and I'm willing to listen. I had taken this to email, but if he wants to post the answer to my email he, I would think it might be of benefit to the majority of the members on the board - if he is correct. By Credentials, I want to know what classes he has completed, or what he has a degree in, where it came from, and sources-references-and listings for "Facts" he quotes. Give me that, and I will shut up. Give me bullshit without scienctific research to stand behind, and I will continue to stand up for what almost anyone who isn't afraid to admit that yes, sometimes, a mod or vet can be incorrect or wrong, can see and admit to be a logical and plausable plane of thought. Just because he is a mod, does not make him God. I'll leave it at that untill we hear what he has to say. -MO | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
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Belive it or not ( i know I will get critized for this) but the best test (250mg versions) that I have used is Primotestin. Yes that is right, I said Primotestin. It is very clean and concise, and the side effects (other that water retention) were very low. My strength went up dramatically as well as my size. I have tried the other blends and this seems to work the best, and the cost is pretty good. Keep this in mind, whatever test product you take, once the esters release the test to your receptors, it is all the same. Furthermore, different people react to particular products in different ways. I also firmly beleive what 2thick said, if your diest, sleep and training is not good and stable, it want make a bit of difference what you use. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
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quote: Thank you for the back-up. I appreciate it, but I gladly returned his e-mail since I have nothing to hide. We settled it without a problem. BTW- I just can't get over how funny your usernames have been...unless it is the truth, then it is kinda sad...hahahahahahahaha...just joking |
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posted December 12, 2000 11:50 PM
