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python77

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posted December 12, 2000 07:46 PM

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What is the best all around first cycle with safety for bulking up.


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oubeta

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posted December 12, 2000 07:49 PM

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sust 500
deca 400 a week
clomid at the end
a shit load of food==15lbs


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santo smith

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posted December 12, 2000 07:49 PM

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i would go with Sust, and maybe a few d-bols for only four weeks
sust d-bol
1 250 25mg
2 250 25mg
3 250 20mg
4 250 20mg
5 250 -
6 250 -
7 250 -
8 250 -
also have some clomid for the end, and some novl just to be safe


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slabcat

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posted December 12, 2000 07:59 PM

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For the first time bulking I'd go light on the test although others will tell you different. 10 week cycle
Sust250 500mgs/week
EQ 400mgs/week or same dose with deca
Dbol, 25-40mgs/day for first five weeks
Winny 350mgs weeks 6-12 to solidify gains
clomid eod during end two weeks after cycle
nolva on hand

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The Ranger

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posted December 12, 2000 08:54 PM

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Slabcat has a winner.....

Ranger


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nahanrac

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posted December 12, 2000 08:57 PM

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what about deca and primo? May not get the gains like you would with test, but aren't they supposed to be alot 'safer'?


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E M T

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posted December 12, 2000 08:58 PM

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Slabcat,
Wouldn't primo be a better and cheaper choice for solidifying gains?


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thermo

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posted December 12, 2000 09:14 PM

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im am going to be doing my first after the new year. i will be doing the same exact cycle slabcat posted, except i am still deciding on want i want between the deca and eq. once i make my mind up, after the new year it will be on.


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ArnoldWannaBe

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posted December 12, 2000 09:21 PM

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My first cycle will consist of Sust for 8 weeks, d-bol for the first 4 weeks, Equipoise for 8 weeks. The quantities will be low but it is my first one. I have heard lots of good things about this combination. We will see. I will start it January 1.


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Deppnade

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posted December 12, 2000 09:38 PM

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hey

i am doing my first the 7th of january when i get back from vacation to see poppy and nanny in florida

sus 500mg a week for 8 weeks
eq 400mg a week for 10 weeks
dbol 40mg day for 5 weeks

the winny is totally unnecessary in my opinion, the first three will do PLENTY, save up adding bigger cycles for later WHEN YOU HAVE TO TO ACHIEVE THE SAME RESULTS

the first is your best, take advantage of it while not going over board

slopain told it to me best, if you start at alot then all you can do is go up from there
start hard, but not overboard, stick with the 3, eq or deca, sus, and dbol, thats it

what u guys think

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liltank

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posted December 12, 2000 09:47 PM

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MY view the best first cycle for safety and good gains would be this:

test cyp

deca duabolin

week 1-10

200mg test
400mg deca

Its a basice cycle which sould give you strength and good mass combination, maybe add some equipoise for the increase androgenic factor but thats about it.

just my .02

tank


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slabcat

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posted December 12, 2000 09:56 PM

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EMT, you could definately go with primo to solidify gains. I don't think it's much cheaper but you only have to inject twice a week compared to eod with winny and the injection sites don't hurt for days as they do with winny. I use winny because I keep more strength with it and because I use primo to bridge between cycles, and more importantly because anavar is so fucking expensive.

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Deppnade

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posted December 13, 2000 01:33 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by liltank:
MY view the best first cycle for safety and good gains would be this:

test cyp

deca duabolin

week 1-10

200mg test
400mg deca

Its a basice cycle which sould give you strength and good mass combination, maybe add some equipoise for the increase androgenic factor but thats about it.

just my .02

tank


dont u think eq would be dumb, they fight for the saem receptors, no???

i still think that test at 200 a week is toooo pussy for a first, its one thing to go overboard, such as a gram or more of test,etc, but its another thing as well to go too pussy, too little doses that could be utilised sooo much more

just my .03 cents

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jdabull

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posted December 13, 2000 01:54 AM

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well here is what i'm doing - i got so many different opinions i kinda just went the middle road and some up with sust 250wk-deca300wk 8 weeks and after 8 wks off i'll do a cycle which i already have of eq 10wks, test enan 10 wks and abombs for the first 4 or 5 and tapering the last 2wks of the test and eq while starting the clomid- any opinions?


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