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KODIAK99

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posted December 12, 2000 12:58 PM

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Conan, you asked for it. Here it is this is what Ranger came up with for me for my next cycle. Originally I was going to hit it Jan 1st, now I am waiting until the end of the month depending on the speed with which my pec heals. So far so good, but your right I don't want to rush it. Right now I am on 400mgs/wk of EQ, just a bridge, keep some hardness and help heal while I rehab without shutting down my natural test. I will continue with it until I start this cycle:
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By the Way, Thanks Ranger. For those who are interested this is not my first cycle (LOL), I am currently 32, 243lbs, 6'1 with 12%BF. . .Rangers advice and I figure I'll try it.
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I encourage you to take 20mg�s of Nolvadex every other day for the entire cycle as well as Clomid at 50mg�s every other day. Of course you will alternate the two. I did this because adding Nolvadex and Clomid at EOD will reduce the estrogenic side effects, such as water retention, and block gyno from occuring as well.
� EQ should be run the entire cycle as it will not aromatize readily, and will help maintain gains.I saved the Primo, and other stuff for the next cycle, or for cutting�.This should do for right now.
� I am starting the dbol at a high dosage(I take between 10 and 12 a day Bro), for the fact that the Nolva and Clomid are already in place, and combined with the extra Prop. Will get results very fast until the other test ester�s and EQ kick in.

WEEK# SUS 250 PROP. DBOL EQ

1 1000mg�s 75mg�s 40mg�s 400mg�s

2 1000mg�s 75mg�s 40mg�s 400mg�s

3 1000mg�s 75mg�s 40mg�s 400mg�s

4 1000mg�s 75mg�s 35mg�s 400mg�s

5 750mg�s 75mg�s 30mg�s 400mg�s

6 750mg�s 75mg�s 30mg�s 300mg�s

7 500mg�s 75mg�s ****** 300mg�s

8 500mg�s 75mg�s ****** 300mg�s

9 500mg�s 75mg�s ****** 300mg�s

Ensure that you intake around 3200 to 4500 calories a day, plus 1.5 to 2 grams of protein per pound of body weight per day. Drinking water is a must, consume all you can. Should your kidneys begin to ache, start drinking 1 gallon of pure cranberry juice per day until symptoms subside.

I like taking Vit. B-6 on cycles such as this to ensure I get all the protein I can in my system, but DO NOT take in too much B-6, it would then do more harm than good.

Also ensure you are taking Milk Thistle to ensure good liver functions, this along with the water should do the trick

Injections should be every three days, and you can mix the different oil based steroids in one syringe to inject. This will cut down on the injections, and injection sites. DO NOT be alarmed if the injection site becomes sore, this is due to the added Prop. And it has some of the same qualities as a bee sting.

Clomid at end of cycle should be as follows:

� 1 week after last injection, Clomid at 50 mg�s everyday for 2 weeks
� Then go with Clomid at 50 mg�s every other day for 2 more weeks.

For your hair(I never have this prob.) you can buy Nizoral shampoo most anywhere. Use it regulary.

Macro was a big proponnet of adding extra Prop. On Sus 250 cycles, I tried it once�LOVED IT!!!

This cycle has the potential of netting you 25 to 40 pounds�most of which depends on you diet, training, and sleep�as for sleep, Melatonin works well for me�

RANGER

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meathead011

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posted December 12, 2000 01:02 PM

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kodiak, how long have you been taking gear, and have you ever had any health problems.

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ex-infantry

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posted December 12, 2000 01:04 PM

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now THAT is a well thought out cycle...you should get some awesome gains off that...by the way, how many cycles have you done? just curious as my stats are the same but im only useing 500mg of sust every week, and after the initial burst, it seems to just help cut me up the last 4 weeks.

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The Ghost

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posted December 12, 2000 01:05 PM

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Kodiak is as healthy as a bear....a big fucking bear!!!!! LOL!


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KODIAK99

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On and off (mostly off) for the past 12 years. I took an 8 year layoff in the the middle. Got back in about six months ago, haven't decided if competition is in my future. I am going to see how this next bulking cycle goes and decide from there. My health has been excellent. I am one of the few that does cardio for at least 30min ED, and stretch for 20min (as you get older you have too). I recently tore a pec muscle but it is healing nicely. . .it was probably due to not stretching enough and/or letting myself cool down too much between sets. . . In the end I would rate every other aspect of my health as excellent. BP, blood counts all well on the healthy side, if they weren't I wouldn't try this cycle.

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greenhouse

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posted December 12, 2000 02:17 PM

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You should have some nice ass gains from that. I have been thinking of using prop in my next cycle. Do us all a favor and keep us posted...


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Adonis

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posted December 12, 2000 02:29 PM

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yep, thats a shit load of juice, you should be glowing by week 6. Keep us posted on your gains.


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The Ranger

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Proof reading I made a mistake on the post cycle Clomid....should 100mg's, ed, then go to 50mg's EOD....

Melatonin on hand to aid in sleep should it become necessary.

Also toward the end of cycle you may think on taking SAM-e (S-adenosylmethionine) in the body it is known to be essential to 35 biochemical processes, some of which include:

1. Maintaining the structure of cell membranes

2. Manufacturing substances vital to transmitting nerve impulses.

3. Influncing moods and emotions

4. Maintaining a healthy liver

As long as you keep your folic acid up (B-6 & B-12) which you will be doing, you'll be fine....

I like to think of it as a small anti-crash helper....In most countries you need a prescription for it....it's OTC in the US....Good Stuff....

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hooch

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posted December 12, 2000 03:23 PM

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Good luck bro!!!!


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Poseidon

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posted December 12, 2000 04:03 PM

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That looks nice...I will have to print this one out. How much is this going to cost?

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KODIAK99

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posted December 12, 2000 04:13 PM

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Ranger, Thanks again. . .Conan asked for my bulking menu so I figured I'd cut and paste from well you know.
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For the bro who inquired about cost. . .without really going back and looking at reciepts (LOL) figure about 1200 from soup to small nuts (LOL).
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Ranger, Got your advice on the clomid, you should already know from Arme. . . that I prefer to err on the high side of clomid anyway. I will probably go with 150mgs/day week 1, and taper back from there, while maintaining the nalvo 20mgs eod.
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One question: SAM-e (S-adenosylmethionine) Where do I find them????? Any health food store???????
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Peace,

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Kodiak99

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Tronco

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posted December 12, 2000 04:22 PM

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Very nice Ranger...very nice! Yep Kodiak that should put some hair on yer....well from the pic it seems as if ya already have plenty of hair so I guess that isnt a concern.


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ARM E MAN

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posted December 12, 2000 04:25 PM

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Hey that's not to bad of a cycle, I'm still gonna' gain more than you...HA HA HA.j/k bro

I'll have E2 build me one and we'll see the results in the end......

LATER.

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The Ranger

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posted December 12, 2000 04:29 PM

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Get the Sam-e at Krogers, GNC...most anywhere Bro....

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KODIAK99

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posted December 12, 2000 07:56 PM

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Ranger. . .I really don't like Armeman. . .LOL

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ARM E MAN

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posted December 12, 2000 08:04 PM

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Hey Kodiak.......


You're afraid......

Ranger is not going to help you stop crying..

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python77

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posted December 12, 2000 08:34 PM

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Hey kodiac, i still want to know how much this is going to run you


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conan69

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posted December 12, 2000 08:38 PM

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HEy kodiak do you wanna see mine
i revised it now that i know someone will be injecting for me!!!!

not bad but i disagree with the tapering of the sust..others yeah maybe...dbol yes
but not the sust, i would run it 1000mg throughout!

all in all looks good

i will post mine now!

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KODIAK99

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posted December 12, 2000 08:52 PM

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Conan, please feel free to send your cycle I'd enjoy seeing it. As far a tapering the sus, I don't really think it makes a huge difference either way, I could go a gram thru/out, but I am going with Rangers recipe and he wrote it that way, besides I figure it won't hurt to bring down the test level slowly before crashing to zero. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Ranger, you better help your little Armeman buddy out, he's obviously jealous your helping someone else.

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The Ranger

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Hahahahahahahahahaha....he and E2 can put their heads together and make an ass out of themselves....heh heh heh....

I have no prob whatsoever with Conan's thoughts of running the sus at a gram the entire cycle...but I agree with you, and that is the reason I tapered, come down slower, and hopefully get test levels up more readily...

Also with the added Undecylenate in the EQ, which is probally the longest acting chain ester...tapering should pose no problem....going a gram per week would be fine as well....but, I would consider Armidex at that point....Just my thoughts...

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ARM E MAN

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posted December 12, 2000 09:18 PM

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Ranger you sh*t head...actualy mine looks very similar Deca instead of EQ and Fina instead of Prop...

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KODIAK99

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posted December 12, 2000 11:25 PM

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Armeman, that's because Ranger knows you can't handle a real cycle so he cut a few corners to help you out. Don't worry bro, you'll get that bench up to 225 just keep pushing. LOL (Ranger, he's got to be getting pissed)

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KODIAK99

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posted December 13, 2000 01:40 PM

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Bump so armeman sees this. . .


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posted December 13, 2000 01:57 PM

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That Sam-e crap is expensive as hell! The last time I checked, it was going for around $20 per box of 20!!

It's main purpose is the treatment of depression as an alternative to prozac, zoloft etc. Supposedly, it is good for many other things too.

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