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Tim7332

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posted December 10, 2000 12:04 PM

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I am trying to plan my second cycle and I have a lot more gear than I think I want to take at once. But I've gotten several opinions saying i should take it all at once and others saying split it up into a bulk and cut cycle.

My first cycle was deca/sust/dbol and I went from 205 to 240 and am currently at 228-230 solid muscle. Ive been bridging with anavar until my next cycle in a few weeks. I'm currently at 10% bf but when this is all over I want to be a 5-8% at least.

What would you guys do if you had the following gear?

Ttokkyo Testonon 250 (Sust) 4 vials 5ml/vial= 5grams sust

Ttokkyo Boldenon (EQ)200mg/ml 10ml bottles. 2 bottles = 4 grams of EQ

Ttokyyo Dbol Plenty.. Lets put it that way

Ttokkyo Anavar 2.5 mg tab/100tab bottles 8 bottles. = 2 grams anavar

Stanazolic (winstrol) 50mg/ml 20ml bottles. 2 bottles = 2 grams of Winny

I also plan to get plenty of Primobolan and Clomid and Arimidex.

Roughly, I have 2 options

1)

Week 1-10 400mg/week EQ
Week 1-8 500mg/week sust. First couple weeks run 750mg/week
Week 1-5 Dbol 40,40,35,30,30
Week 1-12 Winstrol. What should the dosage be?
Week 5-12 300mg/week primo
Pick up at week 13 with 4 more bottles of anavar that i didnt use to bridge before this cycle. Take clomid 100mg ed for a week then 50mg ed for a week then 50mg eod for a week. Taking 50mg eod throughout the cycle. as well as a half arimidex.

Or I can do this:

2)
Week 1-8 Sust as same as above
Week 1-6 Dbol How should I dose it?

wait a month?

Week 1-10 Eq 400mg/week
Week 1-12 winny hit hard
Week 1-12 primo

Start with anavar.

What do you guys think I should do? I stayed relatively cut on my deca/sust/dbol cycle. Should I try to do this all in one?


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charlie

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posted December 10, 2000 12:13 PM

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So this is where you been hiding Tim.

And still asking the same questions, r our answers not good enough for ya?

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Badkins21

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posted December 10, 2000 03:58 PM

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The first option looks very good...I've heard a minimum of 50 mg eod (and that's a BARE MINIMUM FOR A TIGHT-WAD LIKE ME) of the winny...good luck, it looks like you've done your research, SO HAPPY GROWING!!

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CLEMDOG

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posted December 10, 2000 04:05 PM

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I would break it up into 2 cycles. You have enough for a good bulk then a good cut cycle.


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Tim7332

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posted December 10, 2000 04:08 PM

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damn everytime i ask this question it's 50/50. I have no idea which option to choose.


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CLEMDOG

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posted December 10, 2000 04:14 PM

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I believe in hitting two moderate cycles than one really big cycle. You are giving your body two cycles to be able to grow and respond to the changes over just one cycle.

If I had the choice between a sus cycle using 1grm/week for 8weeks, or two cycles using 500mgs/week, I would chose the two cycles and believe I would respond better.


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Soma

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posted December 10, 2000 08:01 PM

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Hey Tim- gotta question for ya. you mind sending me your e-mail address [email protected]? Thanks- oh and how much did you pay per bottle of TtoKkyo Anavar?
-Soma


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Tim7332

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posted December 11, 2000 07:01 PM

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Can I please get a mods opinion on this?


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MeanOne

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posted December 11, 2000 07:09 PM

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This isn't tough at all. Two seperate cycles, because it's blantantly obvious that if you can't even structure your own cycles yet, you are not ready for the mental and physical requirements of a productive transitional cycle. Also, good reasons stated above. -MO

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Olympian

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posted December 11, 2000 07:09 PM

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i definatly think you should do 2 instead of 1 you will grow alot better and hold alot more muscle


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Tim7332

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posted December 11, 2000 08:41 PM

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so should i run the eq with the sust and dbol or with the primo and winny?

Ranger, E2, Macro, 2THick anybody?


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BigPapaPump

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posted December 11, 2000 10:20 PM

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Week 1-6 750mg/week sust.

Week 1-5 Dbol 40,40,35,30,30

Week 7-12 400mg/week EQ

Week 8-12 Winstrol at 50 MG /DAY

Week 10-14 300mg/week primo

BPP


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Tim7332

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posted December 11, 2000 10:57 PM

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That looks pretty good. You think i could run the EQ longer though? i have 2 grams of it.


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BigPapaPump

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posted December 12, 2000 09:12 AM

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You can but I don't know that it will give you that much more. I used the primo at the end to set you up for your next cycle, bridge it towards whatever. This should give you some size and enable you to keep most if not all of it.

Keep me posted.

BPP


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