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nittanylion001

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posted December 09, 2000 06:48 PM

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Ive done much research on this topic and i get mixed reviews. Can sus be used with winny to achieve that ripped hard look? Ive also heard that because winny and sus use the same receptor site they are not good together. anyone have any input or past experience?

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nittanylion001

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posted December 09, 2000 07:19 PM

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bump... cmon bros, i have been reading this board for months, im not a newbie, i just never had much to ask because i do plenty of research

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Kingwinny

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posted December 09, 2000 07:34 PM

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sust and winny is a good combo, meathead011 will back me up on that, too If ur doing a 10 week cycle of sust, bring the winnie in on the 6th or 7th week.

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nittanylion001

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posted December 09, 2000 07:39 PM

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kingwinny thanks for the reply, what would you do with 15 cc's of sus and 40 cc's of winny. i will be runnin everyday and liftin. im 5 10 195. i would like to stay around the same but lose body fat and replace with lean muscle

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Beezers

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posted December 09, 2000 07:42 PM

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This will work well for a cutting cycle. The combination of the drugs themselves will not burn fat however, they will preserve your muscle mass in a calorie deprived state. The only draw back to the sust is water retention. While holding the water you will not appear all that cut. Once that water is excreted though you will see the cuts providing your diet and training were productive. So if you have a set date to reach peak physique, like a show, I would drop the sust two to four weeks out and run the winny through those remaining weeks. The use of anti-estrogens and diuretics will assist in the edema towards the end of the cycle. I love testosterone and I will use it in every cycle. There are better choices for incorperating test into a cutting cycle. Prop being the best option. I think any test will do though as long as you take into account the effects of it on water retention in your body. Everyone reacts to test differently. Some hold gallons and gallons of water and others stay fairly dry. If you plan accordingly for bloat I think this cycle will work well.

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nittanylion001

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posted December 09, 2000 08:15 PM

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beezer, thanks for the reply. what do you mean you would drop the sus two to four weeks out. basically, with the gear that i have, how would you distribute it? also how would you use diuretics through this and how much cardio. appreciate it bro.

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nittanylion001

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posted December 10, 2000 04:47 PM

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bump


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Beezers

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posted December 10, 2000 06:32 PM

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When I'm cuttin I like to give it time so I go twelve weeks.

week---sust---winny
1------500---------
2------500---------
3------500---------
4------500---------
5------500---------
6------500---------
7------500-----50ed
8------500-----50ed
9--------------50ed
10-------------50ed
11-------------50ed
12-------------50ed

By coming off the sust four weeks prior to the completion of the cycle you give your body ample time to rid itself of the water weight incured from the sust. Yet, by continuing on with the winny you remain anabolic, still preserving your muscle mass. I would suggest running EQ all twelve weeks at 400/wk. For cutting only purposes I would also run clen/eca the last eight weeks or so, rotating them in a two week clen, two week eca split.

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BigBald-1

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posted December 10, 2000 06:35 PM

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That cycle sounds like what you need!


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nittanylion001

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posted December 10, 2000 08:07 PM

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during the first 6 weeks of the sus only, would you still be doing cardio and dieting for cutting


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ItalianSweetness

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posted December 10, 2000 09:24 PM

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Yo k dog i would go with the sust only AND ONLY IF YOUR DIET IS GOING TO BE VERY STRICT! Eat a maximum of 100 carbs a day. I have seen you so i know the diet you need. I would start the winny week five eod. 2 weeks after the last shot of sus i would go with the winny ed. -----But the main key here is DIET! IF u can't be that strict then i would opt for just clenbeuterol and winny because you will end up putting on too much fat, water, and mass with a testosterone. I would say to do eq but that stirs the appetite too much.

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