You should finally realize that the formulation (galenic) of a product is way more important than the content of active ingredient.

Never heard of BIOEQUIVALENCE and BIOAVAILABILITY STUDY!!!!

Apperently not, otherwise you wouldn't buy many of the veterinary products and than complain they don't work so good!
Or you wouldn't wonder anymore why 200mg Deca-Durabolin worked better than 200mg of Ttokkyo Nandrolone.
Or how comes that some Finaplix kit work and some not so good.
And surely you would not just go for the cheapest version, but for the best one!

My point is that 200mg Ttokkyo nandrolone are not as effective as 200mg Deca-Durabolin (and this is just an example).

I appreciate the info though.

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Back to business... as usual, C'MON DORIAN!

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If I'm wrong, please enlighten me as to why.

For those who don't know, a steroisomer has the same chemical make up yet a different orientation in space.

I don't know if 'lower quality' products are full of steroisomers or not. Perhaps they are, and perhaps they don't activate the AR, that could be why we see different results on the same amount of drug from different companies.

If you're talking about something else, i'm interested in hearing it.

if you know info that others don't, please don't get pissed....share it joyously and let others revel in your vast pool of knowledge....when you say you're "pissed", it makes you look like a bitter mother fucker.....don't you agree?

PA >|===|---

PS....i'm thinking along the same lines of E2....do anabolics typically have racemic mixtures of stereoisomers? i'd like to know, bro

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About BIOEQUIVALENCE and BIOAVAILABILITY:
The term bioequivalence refers to the ability of a dosage form to deliver the active ingredient to its site of action.
In other words, this means that the bioequivalence shows how effective a pharmaceutical product is by telling how good it gets absorbed and how much of active ingredient lands in the desired place.
For example: two different products may both contain 50mg of Nandrolone Decanoate, but have a different bioequivalence (this because of a different galenic). The product with the best bioequivalence will be more effective.
Since drug concentration cannot usually be measured directly at the site of action, measurements of the drug and/or metabolite concentration will be measured in a biological fluid (like plasma, serum, blood, urine). This method of finding the bioequivalence of a product is called BIOAVAILABILITY STUDY.

The way a drug is made (galenic formulation) influences the bioequivalence.

Let me make a clear example:
How many Viagra 100mg copies (you may call them fakes) are on the market? A lot right!
Well, the wast majority of them don't work really good; so everybody assumes that they are fake and don't contain 100mg of Sildenafil Citrate (active ingredient of Viagra)...WELL IN MANY CASES YOU WOULD BE WRONG!!!
100mg of Sildenafil cost only 10 cents and there are several conpanies that supply it quite easily. So you see, the majority of the fakes really do contain 100mg of Sildenafil, the problem is that they don't have such a high bioequivalence because they were made in a different way as the Viagra from Pfizer (have a different galenic).

You see, making Viagra (by Pfizer) is not so easy, it's not enough to have the active ingredient and simply press it into a tablet!
The making of Pfizer's Viagra is a 7 step process needing to heat the raw material on 4 different occasions,...
If you follow a different "recepy" you will almost surely end up with a lower bioequivalence.

I'm sure that many manufacturers of fakes have been frustrated by this.

That is also one of the meaning of the "Exp. Date": to tell that the bioequivalence of a product is guaranteed untill that date.

Other example: paper-steroids offer a greater surface to the air (more contact to oxygen) than blistered tablets. This will cause a faster decrease of bioequivalence with time.
10mg paper-steroid and 10mg tablet-steroid may have the same bioequivalence today, but a different one in a year!

To talk simple:
100mg Testosterone from XY Pharma may be as good as only 80mg Testosterone from XXY Pharma. So you would make a better deal buying 100mg from XXY Pharma even if the price was 10% higher than 100mg by XY Pharma!

Knowing the bioequivalence of products will help you save money and get more results from less ml/mg.

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He made the compareson between 200mg from Deca and 200mg from Ttokkyo!
Not 1ml Deca and 1ml Ttokkyo!

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