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PANTS

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posted December 09, 2000 07:20 AM

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Whats the ideal ECA stack?
JUST FINISHED MY CLEN CYCLE AND GOING TO DO 2 WEEKS OF Ephedrine.
Is it essential to stack the Ephie with Caffeine and Aspirin? As this isn't always convenient when at work etc.
Whats the frquency of doses. I've seen some mega dosing cycles printed by Bill Phillips etc which seem way extreme!

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Dexter

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posted December 09, 2000 09:51 AM

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No, bro.

Be careful. And do your research. ECA stacking information is all around. Aspirin effectiveness is controversial. Can't hurt though, unless it upsets your stomach.

My caution. Start small for a few days and see how your body reacts, because with some people (like me), you can get sick with an initial large dose and stay awake staring at the ceiling.

Then gradually increase.

The Clen/ECA approach is good, though.

Dexter


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benzo27

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posted December 09, 2000 05:35 PM

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I like the typical 25mg ephed/ 200mg caff/ on asprine. I take this 3x a day with a meal. Be careful though towards the end of the day because you can have a hard time sleeping. I usually take my last dose no later than 4 pm

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The Ranger

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posted December 09, 2000 05:53 PM

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I personally feel asprin in the eca is obselete, I opt for a ecy...I add Yohimnbe instead...3 times per day...but never after 4pm...

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DreaDlorD

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posted December 09, 2000 06:10 PM

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I know that most people will say to drop the aspirin, if anything. I say, drop the caffeine. If you insist on keeping the caffeine, I have found that the suggested 20 mg eph/200 mg caf works the best. Aspirin, anywhere from 70-325 mg, doesn't seem to matter much.

After trying just about all of the commercial forms of the ECA stack (Xenadrine, Hydroxycut, etc.) as well as combining the elements myself on occasion, I decided to try something new. I read an article that said caffeine decreases water retention in muscles. So I started taking the ECA stack without the caffeine. Sometimes I take just ephedrine. I have found that the fatloss from just ephedrine alone or ephedrine/aspirin is almost identical to the same dosage with caffeine added. However, I appear to be keeping more muslce gains without the caffeine.

I may be wrong and its possible that any of a number of other variables are responsible for this. But I'd suggest trying ECA without the caffeine and see what happens.


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RojoDiablo

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posted December 09, 2000 08:04 PM

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Dexter: they also make an ephedrine sulphate that is supposed to be just as effective as Ephedrine HCL but it's supposed to be easier on the stomach. These people sell both kinds of ephedrine, you have to go through some formalities before ya can order but its not that big of a pain. http://www.dnepharm.com/cgi-bin/webcart/webcart.cgi?CONFIG=mountain&CHANGE=YES&NEXTPAGE=store.htm&CODE=101


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Mr.Lean

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posted December 09, 2000 08:23 PM

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25mg ephedrine 200mg caffeine no aspirin 3x a day. I don't suggest taking epedrine and yohimbe at the same day. Some people experience irregular hearbeats.


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PANTS

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posted December 10, 2000 07:53 AM

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Why would the Aspirin be obselete, I thought it aided the fatty acid mobilisation thing?
As for that link to dnepharm.com: they won't deliver to the UK, but ta all the same.

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