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jorbiddon

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posted December 08, 2000 11:37 PM

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i am doing my reasearch looking for the roids that are least androgenic. i am not looking to gain too much mass. i am thinking about a eight week cycle consisting of winstrol-150mgs/week, primobolan-200mgs/week, equipoise-100mgs/week.
Would this cycle cause me to lose some of my hair. I read the thread on hair loss but the views were very conflicting. jj said that winny and primo wont cause hairloss and msg said that they would. any other opinions i can base my cycle on. thanks.


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whacker1

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posted December 08, 2000 11:53 PM

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If you're worried about hairloss, just use deca. Of any significanly anabolic drug out there, it is the LEAST likely to cause the problem.

EQ is highly overrated. Don't bother. Winstrol *SOMETIMES* cause hairloss--more often than deca.

Stick with 400mg/Deca 400mg/Primobolan. You should be fine.


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KODIAK99

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posted December 08, 2000 11:57 PM

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Eq is highly over rated. . .I beg to differ. . .I believe as do many bro's eq is a fine anabolic with excellent properties when used correctly in the appropriate cycle. It is very much like a deca cycle or using deca, but at least for me I find the results are better. . . . .two cheers for EQ. As for your question, your results will be marginal on the light amounts of AS your talking about. . .I would suggest doing a search on Nizoral Shampoo and thinking about your priorities, Hair, or size and strength, for some they can't both be achieved together. . .

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jorbiddon

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posted December 09, 2000 12:03 AM

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i do not want to make super gains. my hair is very important. i just want to make a noticable slim amount of gains from my first cycle. 15 pounds would be perfect. i believe i can attain it with the right diet, i just want to be more confident as to which roids to use that will not cause my hair to loss.


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GAAV KOSH

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posted December 09, 2000 12:41 AM

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The posts up top are right. Deca is your best bet. I did a deca only cycle and didn't notice any speeding of the hairloss.


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JuanDeLaCruz

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posted December 09, 2000 12:46 AM

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Deca is the only steroid that can't cause hair loss. The problem with deca is that you have to take Winstrol with the Deca as an anti-progestin if your going to use enough deca to make decent gains and Winstrol is known to cause hair loss. Just take a chance and pick your poison because ther realy isn't any way around it.

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Kingwinny

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posted December 09, 2000 04:25 AM

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jorbidden, the other day a fellow member made a great post on ways to prevent hairloss, i think he went a little overboard, personally, but he did a great job, i even put it on my favorites list, check it out it should answer ur problems. good luck (hope the address works) http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/039511.html

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jorbiddon

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posted December 09, 2000 10:14 AM

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when you guys say hairloss, does your hair fall out and do you notice it gradually happenning. thanks


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Kingwinny

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posted December 09, 2000 02:06 PM

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gradual


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jorbiddon

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posted December 09, 2000 02:11 PM

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hey king,
would my best bet be to start off with a stacked cycle of eq and deca. i heard that primobolan also causes this loss too. thanks


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gamer

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posted December 09, 2000 04:37 PM

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When I have problems with my hair I notice and keep track by how many pieces are in my hand when I wash my hair. The EQ will be a worst choice (although I love the stuff) for hair as it is slightly more androgenic than deca and consequently will probably in a sensitive individual cause a little more hair loss. I would use the deca at 400mg and the winny at 150-200 per week. You will keep at least 15 pounds from this if your diet is right. My first cycle which was only 200 deca, 200 primo, and 150 winny and I went from 174 to 198 and stayed at 195 clean for three months before knee surgery took it's toll. My diet was very good and strict however so if you are on low doses then this is a must. You can grow though so don't listen if someone tells you other wise although you will be leaving some gains "on the table" so to speak.


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Kingwinny

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posted December 09, 2000 04:38 PM

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u don't need to use both deca and eq, pick 1, if hairloss is a concern go with deca, deca doesn't get enough credit in terms of its safety for hairloss. If u keep the primo dosages low u should be ok, im starting primo in 2 weeks at 200mg per week, hairloss shouldn't be a concern. Any other questions email me would love to help u out


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jorbiddon

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posted December 09, 2000 05:00 PM

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i dont have any history of pattern baldness in my family. my hair is pretty long now. basically if some comes out thats ok. i jsut dont want to be bald. it will hopefully come back in after the cycle?


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted December 09, 2000 05:13 PM

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jorbiddon,

How old are you? Have you noticed any natural hairloss (receding or thinning)?


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jorbiddon

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posted December 09, 2000 05:21 PM

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hey. im 19 years old. i have not noticed any natural hair loss or receeding. my hair actually grows very quickly. its fairly long now. mister what two roids would you suggest i stack. i have many options that i have come across. advice very much appreciated.


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted December 09, 2000 05:34 PM

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You are still quite young to know if hairloss could be in your future. I think that a safe cycle in terms of hairloss would be Deca at 400mg/wk and Winny at 50mg ED. You won't get huge, but you said you weren't looking for a lot of mass.

I don't know how long your cycle is going to be but don't use the winny for too long (4-5 weeks) since it is 17aa. If your planned cycle is longer than this, drop the winny and add in the primo at 200mg/wk.

Again, you're not going to get huge off this cycle but you should notice some gains and I doubt if hairloss will be a problem.


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jorbiddon

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posted December 09, 2000 05:41 PM

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thanks mister


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Mr.Lean

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posted December 09, 2000 08:33 PM

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All anabolics have the potential to cause hair loss. Some people never have any no matter what doses they use. Others experience serious loss on light cycles. Testosterone, alone, is the worst. Deca, no propecia, is the best. All the others are probably about the same. Any may cause hair loss.


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PANTS

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posted December 10, 2000 07:59 AM

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Does it return after cycles, or are you just stuck with the baldy label?

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Clay

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posted December 11, 2000 12:42 PM

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I did alot of test quite a few years back and remember picking up small clumps of hair out of the shower drain EOD. I had alot of hair then so I noticed the shedding but didn't notice any change in the look of the hair on my head. So yes, you may notice shedding with anything you take but I you're not gonna go bald unless you were on the brink of loosing it all anyway naturally. Your best bet is to try it and watch out for the shedding. If you notice it coming on, back off on the dosage.


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