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Author | Topic: Site injections, your thoughts? | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 222 |
I have been injecting Test Phenyl-Propionate which is oil based, some people say that site injection doesn't increase the size of the muscle. Synthol aside, does oil based gear increase size of muscle when injected locally in biceps, shoulders, etc... The reason why I'm asking is because I inject in my legs and they have gotten way bigger since I have been injecting in my quads and the size doesn't seem to disappear either after a few weeks. I was planning to start injecting locally. Anybody? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 422 |
i guess it does help with size when you are on, but once you stop it goes down, it really does not help in that muscle to grow more. i can be wrong. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 222 |
So oil from gear cannot stretch the muscle fascia permanently? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 80 |
i personally believe in site injections. Why let the oil set in your leg or ass when it can set in your bicep and help stretch the muscle. Believe me, nothing like oil in the guns, i swear it helps some ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3568 |
It will help but not permaneantly. Localized growth will occur, and it wont go away the day after a shot - but it wont be there in a couple months either. I site shoot the bi's once in a while, with winny. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 422 |
why the winny bro? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3568 |
A very knowledgable person who reads this board informed me that he saw greater results with winny than alot of other drugs, not inlcuding of course PGF2. Winny at one time was said to induce site specefic growth, now it seems people believe it does so, but only temporarily. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 278 |
Site injections work. Period. Every injection causes some scar tissue which will cause an increase in muscle size regardless of weather or not the localized drug causes more muscle growth locally. I think the fascia-stretching someone else mentioned may apply. I do notice a better effect using 3ml per shot instead of 1-2. Also, small muscles are more affected. I have noticed an increase in quad size from site injecting, but nothing major. However, in biceps, shoulders and calves it works great. I havent injected into my delts in about a year and my mid-delts are still huge from using Eq. I think localized steroid injections work better then Pump-n-pose. Thats been my experience. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Pro Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 422 |
humm.......i got a cutting cycle with winny coming up in Jan i think i will have to try it out. as far as pain...which not much with glut and delt how is it when you inject in the bi...and what head of the bi to you inject into? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 21 |
Paul Borresen "who owns Biohazard in England" has written a book on site injections and there will a training vidieo avalable soon here in the USA on the subject. All interested parties who would be interested, should contact [email protected]. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 278 |
Im a little nuts, so Ill inject into any part of the muscle if Im pretty sure Ill miss any major nerves. Bi injections can hurt, but calves are the worst. With bicep injections, I flex my bicep and determine where to inject to make the oil set right at the peak when I inject. Should be app. in the middle of the bicep. Then I try to miss any major veins on the surface, and go slightly inside or outside (I alternate). I usually wait at least 4 days before using the same site again and I always aspirate. Its easy to hit blood vessals in the small muscles. You will figure out after a while which part to inject into to create the shape you want. Winny does seem to work better then oil based drugs. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 284 |
Do you inject on the outside of the calf? I was thinking of going in diagonally with a 1" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Cool Novice ![]() ![]() Posts: 36 |
What part of the tricep and bicep could you inject Winny into? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder ![]() ![]() Posts: 222 |
I have no respect for Paul so enough about him. But does scar tissue prevent further growth since it buddles up the muscle? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ||
Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posts: 3568 |
I dont think muscle scars, I think the skin and the layers of skin scar, so no it will not impede future growth. GS explained it perfectly, flex the BI, note where its the meatiest (where it peaks) then unflex it and shoot it. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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