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GETTN'BIG

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:ATWATER CA USA
Registered: May 2000

posted December 07, 2000 03:25 PM

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well guys i think that im gonna jump on the ol bandwagon. i plan to use some sustanon on day one and propinate every other day. the dosage will beas follows.
day 1- sus at 750 or 1000mg
2-off
3-100prop
4-off
5-100prop
6-off
7-100prop
8-off
9-100prop
10-off
11-100prop
12-off
13-100prop
14-off
15-100prop
i have a questio`n about the sust dosage. is 1000 mgs too much to take. and how about clomid????
gimme some feedback, all info i greatly appreciated


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Adonis

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posted December 07, 2000 03:50 PM

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Depending on where your at and where you want to go, I would keep sust between 500-1000 a week, and the prop I have never used.

you should see some moderate gains if your eating right and training right, and the sust should help with giving you a good appetite, pump and growth.


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JustWannaBeHuge

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posted December 07, 2000 03:52 PM

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Quick thought. From what i have read about short cycles, Sus isn't the wya to go, as it is a longer lasting substance. may want to check over a few other types of AS before you take that first shot of Sus.

JW


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DocJ

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posted December 07, 2000 03:55 PM

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That prop dose is too low, at least 150 EOD and I would actually go to 200 EOD.

The key to reaping the benefits of short cycling is to keep doing it. Don't just do one or two in a row and call it good, you need to string a few of those puppies together to see if it will really work for you.

Also, 1000mg of sust on day 1 is just fine, as long as you switch to prop.
Use the clomid 1 week after your last prop shot. Good luck.

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DREXX

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From:Canada
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posted December 07, 2000 05:36 PM

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I have started doing short cycles and the only reason I used sust is because I had it on hand.

I did 500mg Sust and 750mg Enant on day 1. My buddy took 1000mg Enant and no sust and he got better gains.

Sust will cause a little crash since it lasts 24 days.

If you can take enanthate on day 1 if not take less sust maybe 500-750mg so it doesn't cause much suppression.

Also the prop last about 5 days so cut it out at about day 10.

I aim for 2000mg of drugs total in the 2 weeks.

Next one for me is 1500mg enanthate and 35mg/dbol per day

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Dr.Atlas

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posted December 07, 2000 06:29 PM

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Sus will act too long. Your body should be clean of supressing androgen levels by 2 weeks, meaning that you need to shorten this. One example is in http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/040063.html. 10 cycles in the new year, all end on day 13, for 20 weeks on a year. I have other examples of nonsupressing cycles if you like I'll send them to you. Peace!

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Dr.Atlas

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posted December 07, 2000 06:33 PM

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P.S. I think 100mg t-prop EOD is fine, some enanthate would make a fine start but the sus is too long acting. Peace!

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got big?

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posted December 07, 2000 08:34 PM

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BTW, is the Prop you're gonna use Brovel t-50?

Also, a good amount of the enanthate will be clear past day 14? Perhaps I might try loading up on some on day1 of mine.

Dr Atlas: Can you send me some of those short cycle plans, that link you posted doesn't work.


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Hankrr

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posted December 07, 2000 11:47 PM

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This sounds very interesting to me too. Please keep us posted on results.


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Thaibox

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posted December 08, 2000 12:02 AM

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yeah, definately keep us posted on this bro

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted December 08, 2000 12:23 AM

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how long will you take off between cycles?


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Stones34

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posted December 08, 2000 12:34 AM

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I too am thinking of doing a short cycle (2-on/4-off)....So, you guys think that front loading with enthate is a good idea, right? What others do you think would be good to load with?


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