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Big Joe

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posted December 06, 2000 05:24 PM

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I am 5 11 and weigh 225 lbs and am around 17% bf. I have taken only one other cycle before and that was deca 200 (one 10 ml bottle) about 1 year ago. Before I start this cycle I will get my weight down to about 205 or 210 so I can eat more calories this time, last time I don't think I ate enough calories, I put on about 7 lbs of pure muscle and kept it all. I don't want to get huge just maintane my same weight with more muscle. Please tell me what you think.
any comments on how to improve my cycle would be appreciated also. I have one 10 ml bottle of deca 300 and a 5 ml bottle of sustanon 250 but would be willing to get more if enough people told me i was wasting my time.Thanks


--------Deca---------Sus--------clomid-----
wk1-----300---------250---------------------
wk2-----300---------250-------------------
wk3-----300---------250--------------------
wk4-----300---------250--------------------
wk5-----300---------250-------------------
wk6-----400--------------------------------
wk7-----300-------------------------------
wk8-----300------------------------------
wk9-----300-------------------------------
wk10----200----------------------100mg/day
wk11-----------------------------50mg/day
wk12-----------------------------50mg/day


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quadster

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posted December 06, 2000 05:28 PM

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not very much


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b fold the truth

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posted December 06, 2000 05:29 PM

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You need at least 4 if not 6 more sust to go with it.


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8pack

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posted December 06, 2000 05:44 PM

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It depends. What are your goals and current stats. In truth you will grow off that cycle I had tried the same cycle for my first and was very pleased with the results. The only thing I would do different if I were you is add more sus do it till the end.


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GearedChupaCabra

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posted December 06, 2000 06:26 PM

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Get enough sust and hit 500mgs and deca 400mgs keep a high protein diet you should get some pretty good size..

best of luck


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Dr.Atlas

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posted December 06, 2000 06:42 PM

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Please read the !!!!!___Cutting Before Bulking___!!!!! post http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/040063.html since I think it might apply. Otherwise, the cycle format looks solid, you just need some more test (and don't pyramid the deca). Peace!

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CN1

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posted December 06, 2000 07:05 PM

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bro I think you need to keep the weight you got, get alot more sustanon, you need to take atleast 750mg of sustanon a week for all 10 weeks, up the deca dosage to 400 a week, then get some primobolan to bridge with for 8 weeks after the cycle, this will get you hard, if you take up to 750 mg of sust, and 400 mg of deca, you will get up to 250 if you dont try to shed that 20 or 15 lbs you are talking about.


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Angelo

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posted December 06, 2000 07:30 PM

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This one does miracles for me:

--------Deca--------Sust--------Clomid----
wk1-----------------500-------------------
wk2-----300---------500-------------------
wk3-----300---------500-------------------
wk4-----400---------500-------------------
wk5-----400---------250-------------------
wk6-----400---------250-------------------
wk7-----300---------250-------------------
wk8-----200---------250-------------------
wk10----200----------------------50mg/day
wk11-----------------------------100mg/day
wk12-----------------------------50mg/day


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Big Joe

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posted December 08, 2000 09:32 PM

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bump!


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ghans

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posted December 09, 2000 02:28 AM

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Get more sus!


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Mass Monster

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posted December 09, 2000 04:02 AM

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More sus and maybe some anadrol for real gains!

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Big Joe

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posted December 09, 2000 05:15 AM

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Just another quick note, I thought I would take it easy on the sus that way in the future my body will not require a larger dose and I would be happy to put on 15 lbs of muscle and keep it. I don't have a very high metabolism and really have to watch what I eat to stay where I am at, so I think I can keep damn near whatever I put on. Am I right or wrong to make the above assumptions. thanks for any answers.


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PeteyPete

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posted December 09, 2000 08:22 AM

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....Sust....Deca...Dbol(optional).Clomid EOD
1.....500...400....35
2.....500...400....35
3.....500...400....30
4.....500...400....25
5.....500...400....20
6.....500...400
7.....500...400
8.....500...400
Following with the typical clomid dosages.


This is the cycle i'd recommend solely because i did a cycle much like the one you first suggested and didn't get the gains i'd hoped for. Also, if i could do my cycle over i would throw in some dbol initially just to get the strength up....just my opinion.


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bbigman2000

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posted December 09, 2000 09:45 AM

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Ok Bro, I think you need to up your dose of susta,
that dose will not be enough, and by the time it kicks
in properly at day 21ish, you will be fininshing what you
have, you really need to cycle sus at the same dose for
about 8wks to get the true benefits. I get what you are saying
about your not wanting to go to heavy on it incase it
doesnt work so well for you next time, so go with 500mg
for 8 wks, then leave sus alone for 8wks and then you could
use again, I can assure you that sus, works just aswell
the second and third time you use it as it dose the first
time, it is my opinion that it is slightly over rated and mild
I prefer test enathate, then you will know what testo kick
is all about, so, 8wks at 400mg deca and 8wks at 500mg sus.
Good luck.

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sac916

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posted December 09, 2000 05:51 PM

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definely up your dose of sust and throw a little d-bol in


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DreaDlorD

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posted December 09, 2000 06:24 PM

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Big Joe, I am about to do an almost identical cycle to the one that you outlined, except I am gonna add primo in there as well. My first cycle was deca-only and I got great results, but I am anxious to see how much better it will be with sust.

I am also keeping the dosage low so that I won't need more on a future cycle. However, I only weigh 165 lbs. Your much bigger so maybe you should take a little bit more.


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KODIAK99

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posted December 09, 2000 06:36 PM

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now where talking. . .500sus/400deca, figure out what works for you bro and move up to it as you wish. . .however, I do agree with most of these posts. . .if your going to shut down your own test production you might as well throw enough test in to make a change in your body. . .the gear is only part of the answer however, you hit it on the head with diet, that's just as important if not more so than the gear your on. You won't gain on or off if your diet sucks. . .You will gain on or off if your diet is clean, caloric and high protien. Peace.

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