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Novice 
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I would first like to introduce myself to the board, I have been an active "lurker" for quite some time now. I am getting ready to start my first cycle in a number of years, Primobolan Depot(100-200mg/wk), Winstrol V(150-200mg/wk), Anavar(10-20mg/ed), Clenbuterol(40-80mcg/ed), T-3(25-75mcg/ed) and hGH(2IU/ed) (cycle duration of 6-8 weeks). My main goal is to preserve as much lean body mass while reducing my bodyfat as much as possible with the least number of side effects and NO HAIR LOSS (if possible). I would appreciate comments on the combination of "gear" listed as well as any personal experience with Ttokkyo Anavar(I am considering purchasing this instead of oxandrolone SPA). Oh, by the way, love the board. PEACE    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 114 |
Never used Anavar or hGh, so there'll be others to help you with that, but welcome to the board. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 427 |
Welcome. If you are planning for a course to start in a few years, that's a great start. Doing plenty of research is the best way to go and if you are young it's best to wait until you are at least 21. I'm guessing that you are. Too many young newbies wanna start straight away on gear with no real knowledge and very little natural training base.  | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 483 |
I agree with Strengthmonster. Secondly are you starting in 2 yrs or have you not touched anything for 2 yrs. How can anyone help you without any information. Your age, how long you been training, your diet, etc etc etc ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 528 |
It's a good way to plan it bro. If I myself was gonna spend $ on primo (mmmm, primo) and anavar, I'd pass on the winny and do a non-supression cycle. If you're gonna shut you balls down, do it the right way: test, dbol, eq and maybe some fina. Finasteride will help with hairloss from certain gears, but the only way to be "sure" (probably no such thing) the increased androgen levels don't cut into your hair is a topical antiandrogen like spironolactone or flutamide. Nizoral has similar but probably lesser effects. Peace! ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
Thaibox, strengthmonster, The_Iron_Game, and Dr. Atlas, I appreciate all of your comments. This will be my first cycle in about 10 years. (ATTN: Dr. Atlas, if you read this post again.) If I keep the Winstrol V would you suggest Clomid, or HCG? Any personal experience? Thanks again fellas. PEACE | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 13 |
This is a pretty light cycle. You might consider going heavier. I think 400mg Primobolan Depot and 350mg Whinney V a week is better. Your cycle should not be too hard on the head. These drugs stack very well, and you shouldn't need any accessory drugs. I'd say clomid not necessary. Any androgen, even deca to a lesser extent, can cause hair loss if you are succeptable, but some folks never lose any. If you are really worried about hair loss, consider deca(no propecia). Forget the GH and T3. Give the anabolics a fair shot first. I'm not a fan of the shotgun approach. | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
I appreciate all the responses but I still have a question. I have been researching all day about Winstrol and the suppression of natural testosterone but seem to be coming up with mixed information. Does anyone know of a specific scientific study on this? (Dr. Atlas, are you out there?) I thank you all in advance. PEACE | ||
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Guru 
Posts: 3580 |
Winny WILL DEFINETLY suppress natural test if used at a good dose. I don't have a scientific study, but then again I don't need one b/c it happened to me lol. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 223 |
i have 27 amps of winnie, is 1 every other day enough to shut down natural test levels? ------------------ "Don't Hate the GAME Hate the FAME" -me | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
BUMP | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 211 |
welcome aboard bro | ||
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Novice
Posts: 10 |
One last shameless bump for some information. ANYBODY? PEACE | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 528 |
If you're asking about studies of winstrol on supression, I doubt any have been done since winny is primarily a vet drug. If I had my physician's desk reference and it showed stanazol I'm sure hypogonadism would be a side from it, just like Slopain says. Although I've never used it, winny is not a favorite of mine. Expensive, often faked, and just as hard on the liver as dbol which adds more mass and strength. I like clomid better than HCG by far. Keep searching for your best stack bro. Peace! ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1326 |
Welcome to the board. . .your plan sounds well sound, do some research and plan out your cycles wisely. If I were you I'd concentrate on a base first, cutting later. The hair thing is a tough one, It is a decision you have to make if you find you are prone to losing it. Try the Nizoral shampoo, I use it, but don't really know if it works. . .The GH, I would save for down the road when you know more and have exhausted your interest in AS. . .Just my 2 cents. ------------------ |
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