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Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 59 |
This was posted by F1hybrid on Renegade...good article on Arimidex. Maybe some of you biochemistry whizzes can tell us what this all means: --------------------------------------- Estrogen suppression in males: metabolic effects. JOURNAL OF CLINICAL ENDOCRINOLOGY AND METABOLISM. vol. 85, no. 7 (2000 Jul): 2370-7. We have shown that testosterone (T) deficiency per se is associated with marked catabolic effects on protein, calcium metabolism, and body composition in men independent of changes in GH or insulin-like growth factor I production. It is not clear,,however, whether estrogens have a major role in whole body anabolism in males. We investigated the metabolic effects of selective estrogen suppression in the male using a potent aromatase inhibitor, Arimidex (Anastrozole). First, a dose-response study of 12 males (mean age, 16.1 +/- 0.3 yr) was conducted, and blood withdrawn at baseline and after 10 days of oral Arimidex given as two different doses (either 0.5 or 1 mg) in random order with a 14-day washout in between. A sensitive estradiol (E2) assay showed an approximately 50% decrease in E2 concentrations with either of the two doses; hence, a 1-mg dose was selected for other studies. Subsequently, eight males (aged 15-22 yr; four adults and four late pubertal) had isotopic infusions of [(13)C]leucine and (42)Ca/(44)Ca, indirect calorimetry, dual energy x-ray absorptiometry, isokinetic dynamometry, and growth factors measurements performed before and after 10 weeks of daily doses of Arimidex. Contrary to the effects of T withdrawal, there were no significant changes in body composition (body mass index, fat mass, and fat-free mass) after estrogen suppression or in rates of protein synthesis or degradation; carbohydrate, lipid, or protein oxidation; muscle strength; calcium kinetics; or bone growth factors concentrations. However, E2 concentrations decreased 48% (P = 0.006), with no significant change in mean and peak GH concentrations, but with an 18% decrease in plasma insulin-like growth factor I concentrations. There was a 58% increase in serum T (P = 0.0001), sex hormone-binding globulin did not change, whereas LH and FSH concentrations increased (P < 0.02, both). Serum bone markers, osteocalcin and bone alkaline phosphatase concentrations, and rates of bone calcium deposition and resorption did not change. In conclusion, these data suggest that in the male 1) estrogens do not contribute significantly to the changes in body composition and protein synthesis observed with changing androgen levels; 2) estrogen is a main regulator of the gonadal-pituitary feedback for the gonadotropin axis; and 3) this level of aromatase inhibition does not negatively impact either kinetically measured rates of bone calcium turnover or indirect markers of bone calcium turnover, at least in the short term. Further studies will provide valuable information on whether timed aromatase inhibition can be useful in increasing the height potential of pubertal boys with profound growth retardation without the confounding negative effects of gonadal androgen suppression | ||
Guru Posts: 3701 |
I can tell you this from the post: IT WORKS but does decrease IGF-1 by 18% not considerable but thats all I can interpret from skimming it | ||
Cool Novice Posts: 17 |
The purpose of this study was to find out whether in pubertal males, anti-aromatase would have a negative impact on growth. The answer is apparently no, estrogens do not play a significant role in the growth of males at puberty. Perhaps armidex can cause grwoth stunted or late puberty sufferes some relief. Anyway there are two implications to the study. The first implication is that if you have a shitload of money you should take armidex when off cycle sometime, since it apparently raises test. However, descreasing estradiol so profoundly might have some negative impacts (E does some things). The second implications is that reducing estrogen activity reduces IGF-1 and this can have a negative impact if you are looking for total massive huge quick and dirty growth. However, the question remains as to whether clomid or nolvadex also reduce IGF-1 or if this effect is exclusive to anti-aromatase compounds. If it is exclusive to armidex, than theoretically only taking nolvadex may allow for more maximal anabolism. | ||
Guru Posts: 4752 |
50%decrease in estrogen,58%increase in serum testosterone levels,an increase in follicle stimulating hormone and leutenizing hormone.All in all,I'd say that is quite damn impressive.... | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 59 |
I thought you guys would like that! | ||
Elite Bodybuilder Posts: 722 |
well,we do know that it reduce estrogen levels,as for decrease IGF-1 by 18% this can be a good reason to use 1/4-1/2 mg a day. interisting study. ------------------ | ||
Amateur Bodybuilder Posts: 156 |
This is what I was waiting to read. 200 dollars for 28 tabs isn't that bad if the half life is 50 hours and you only need fromn 1/4 to one tab a day. Some have even said one tab EOD. For a sust, d-bol and clomid cycle I wouldn't need to start the arimedex until what week?? I would think that around week three should be the about the right time. Start with 1/4 tab ED for two weeks then either 1/2 tab ED or one tab EOD for weeks 6,7,8. Does this sound about right???? Id hate the piss out 200 dollars. .. |
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