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AZtallguy

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posted December 05, 2000 10:33 PM

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finaplix is implanted in cattle for growth. not to make them stronger or cut them up.No one needs chizeled cattle. Unless they're entered in a heifer Olympia or something. so why does it promote so little growth in humans.


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winstrol69

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posted December 05, 2000 10:35 PM

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???? OK....DO A SEARCH!


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latona

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posted December 05, 2000 10:38 PM

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who says fina doesn't promote growth in humans? From what I've read, alot of the guys on this board would disagree.


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AZtallguy

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posted December 05, 2000 10:57 PM

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although it contains trenbolone acetate it doesn't seem to produce like others


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CLEMDOG

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posted December 05, 2000 11:06 PM

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thats a good question. some have great weight gain with fina, some dont. It seems as if more people that have used fina alone, only cut up and get harder with maybe a few extra pounds.


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AZtallguy

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posted December 05, 2000 11:09 PM

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thankyou clemdog. I appreciate your input.


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AZtallguy

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posted December 05, 2000 11:26 PM

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bump for me.


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lexus

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posted December 05, 2000 11:29 PM

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fina promotes a ton of growth, and yes you need bigger leaner cattle.. whaT the hell do you think you eat when you have a filet.. bigger leaner cattle = more money for farmers... think before you ask


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T Bone

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posted December 05, 2000 11:32 PM

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winstrol69, Kill the negitive crap. It's a good question.

From what i've read, it seems that Fina is pretty versital. If you do a high cal diet it seems to produce a good amount of quallity muscle. If you go low to moderate cal diet, it seems to cut you up. Both ways, you get good strenth.

Maybe i'm wrong. Heres a bump.

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Zeacky

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posted December 05, 2000 11:37 PM

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Your not talking too much of it are you?

Take 1050 mg per week or 150mg per day and you will see the light at the end of the tunnel in your kidneys...hehe I'm only joking

And start drinking 30-40 liters of water and 10 grams of cranberry extract per day

very expensive but worth it!

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KODIAK99

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posted December 05, 2000 11:41 PM

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Zeaky those are serious numbers. . .I recommend 75mgs EOD for 6 weeks and cycle off. It is actually a tremendous builder if used in a high protien high calorie diet. EG: Enhances lean mass in cattle. Lean meaning muscle, not more adipose or fat. Bigger burgers. . .now you get it. It also seems or many claim to believe it enhances cycles with other AS stacks. . .do a search, I think there are 7000000 fina posts on this board.

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Donald Smoot

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posted December 06, 2000 12:45 AM

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This is an intresting question. I think you will gain good size-strength from fina if you eat enough, but because it causes less water retention then test it seems you don't grow as fast. In humans test is more mood enhancing then fina. I guess that the reason the farmer likes it better then test is because gram for gram trenbalone is 3 times stronger. This is important because you can put a larger dose in the cows ear without buggering it up as much as test, which would require 3x as many pellets, and a greater risk of ear infection.


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posted December 06, 2000 01:00 AM

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I am not aware of any evidence that trenbolone is toxic to the kidney. I have heard rumors of an impurity in the French made Parabolan though.


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big_guy1

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posted December 06, 2000 01:14 AM

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first off, fina is great...trenbolone is a powerful steroid, and is toxic to the liver...the acetate ester is good for cutting fat because it raises body temp, it is also a faster acting ester then the famous brother, parabolan....

Now whether or not fina is good for mass or cutting, is misunderstood, like all steroids. Not sgetting technical, or scientific, steroids simply do one thing, build muscle tissue. Now the traits of each steroid such as how much mass is obtained, and water retension, is what would lead one to choose one steroid over another for cutting or bulking. What would further lead one to choose would be the fact that some steroid work well with low calorie diets(such as winny as well as fina).

oh well hope this helped some...

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jhater194

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posted December 06, 2000 01:24 AM

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the reason it is used for cows is because it increases their muscle mass.

All gear works better in animals than in humans.


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overlord

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posted December 06, 2000 01:24 AM

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Fina.......... It is trenbolone acetate which is the same as parabolan. Unfortunately parabolan is very hard to find and if you do it is usually fake. Fina on the other hand is not fake and can be converted. Trenbolone does not aromatize easily if at all, that is why it is normally used as a CUTTING drug. It makes you lean and hard. If you want to grow on something stick to test. Trenbolone is very toxic. It is in my opinion damn near as toxic as A50 although I have heard from alot of people who use fina(myself included) That if you stick to the standard 76mgs eod you won't have any problems. I have never used it for more than 5 weeks at a time. I like my kidneys where they are. If you want to try and use more be sure to watch the color of your urine. If you notice it starting to darken you have done some damage to your kidneys and need to hold up.
Live well and shoot smart.


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mr.tomatoehead

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posted December 06, 2000 02:14 AM

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I would have to say that a few people probably screw up the conversion, let it oxidize, etc. this drug wasn't made for humans to inject. since people do it themselves there is bound to be some people that screw it up, and get nothing from it. trenbolone is very potent, and if you get it right you're gonna know it and see it. not saying that's the case with AZ, it's just my opinion on why some people consider it not that effective. Then of course you got people who want to snort it, dmso it, eat it, etc. I think just convert it properly and inject. audi 5000


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big_guy1

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posted December 06, 2000 02:35 AM

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fina and para are NOT the same thing overlord, they are both trenbolone, but they have different esters...

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MS

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posted December 06, 2000 02:49 AM

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Cattle and humans are also NOT the same. Cattle are one of the biggest reasons clenbuterol and HMB got reputations for being such great anabolics. Yeah, sure they work great in livestock. But humans are just SLIGHTLY different. But the bros are right. Fina is used to increase LBM in cattle prior to slaughter (so the farmers can get more money per head).


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Dr. Juice

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posted December 06, 2000 02:50 AM

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This is correct, parabolan and fina are different esters of trenbolone. Recall that trenbolone binds to the androgen receptor and exhibits most of its effects via this pathway. In animals trenbolone is used for 50-100 days prior to slaughter and thus there is plenty of time for those dumb little bastards to get huge on our fina. Alone, for short periods of time, fina will not exhibit significant quantitative anabolic qualities since there is no fluid retention. However, since the androgen receptors are activated, if another compound such as dianabol is added, which exhibits its effects primarly through fluid/mineral retention and enhanced protein synthesis, the TA+d combo will cause quite a large gain.


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AZtallguy

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posted December 06, 2000 08:27 AM

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thanks for your help everybody.I've read just about every fina post there is but I've never seen one on bulking. made me curious.
AZ


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