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DREXX

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posted December 04, 2000 05:01 PM

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MY GAINS:

Started: 190lbs @ 13.1% LBM = 165.11 lbs FAT = 24.89 lbs
2 weeks on: 198lbs @ 12.97% LBM = 172.32 lbs FAT = 25.68 lbs

Gains after 14 days LBM = 7.21 lbs FAT = 0.79 lbs

2 weeks off: 196.5lbs @ 12.73% LBM = 171.47 lbs FAT = 25.03 lbs

Results after 14 days off LBM = +6.36 lbs FAT = +0.14 lbs


TRAINING PARTNERS GAINS:

Started: 170lbs @ 11.34% LBM = 150.70 lbs FAT = 19.29 lbs
2 weeks on: 179.5lbs @ 11.13% LBM = 159.54 lbs FAT = 19.88 lbs

Gains after 14 days LBM = 8.84 lbs FAT = 0.59 lbs

2 weeks off: 179lbs @ 11.59% LBM = 158.24 lbs FAT = 20.75 lbs

Results after 14 days off LBM = +7.54 lbs FAT = +1.46 lbs

NOTES:

My training partner partner didn't take metaformin, creatine, glutamine at all.
He only took clomid at 50mg for 2 weeks.

We both kept alot of the gains and are very satisfied with the results. After 2 weeks off
I only lost 0.85 lbs of LMB and he lost 1.3lbs of LBM.

We are only taking another week off and then hitting another one. We can't wait.

Any Questions, comments???

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px1138

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posted December 04, 2000 05:11 PM

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have you did several cycles in the past bro?

the results look really good, not losing much weight afterwards may suggest that your T levels weren't that low afterwards, thats awesome. didnt someone, i think huck, post that this was true, that T levels arent drastically dropped until after 2 weeks?

so if you do the 2on/3off you could perhaps stay on for a total of a little more than 20 weeks a year, and if someone gained lets say just 5lbs each 2week, that would be around 50lbs in a year's time. pretty cool.

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Tomo

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posted December 04, 2000 05:13 PM

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way to go drexx-tomo


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DREXX

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posted December 04, 2000 05:32 PM

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Here is part 1 and 2 for those that missed it...
http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/11-2000/037352.html http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/11-2000/038097.html

I will keep doing them as long as I can keep 4lbs of LBM after the weeks off.

40lbs of LBM per year is good enough for me

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gonnabehuge

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posted December 04, 2000 05:57 PM

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congrats bro..great gains and looks like you are keeping most of them too.
Mike.

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DREXX

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posted December 05, 2000 10:18 PM

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bump this fucker

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timac

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posted December 05, 2000 10:21 PM

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good to hear, I think I will try this next cycle.


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Bubba

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posted December 05, 2000 11:06 PM

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Definitely helps the argument for short cycles.

BUMP


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WCP

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posted December 06, 2000 03:20 AM

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My question here is how your working your diet. It takes the body approx. 14 days to adjust to a new diet plan, and I would like to see how you both are compensating your cycle dieting with your "off" dieting.

Thanx,
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thefantom1

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posted December 06, 2000 09:00 AM

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Drexx...so for this 2 week cycle you only injected the 500mg Sust + 750mg Enanthate once and on the first day??? Nothing on week 2 as far as injections??

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ex-infantry

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posted December 06, 2000 09:57 AM

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good post drexx..... i'm quite interested in the short cycle method...what are your plans for the next one?

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Bootyshaker

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posted December 06, 2000 10:09 AM

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Drexx, Whenever you gets some spare time can you pass me an e-mail,, I am very interested in the short cycle and would like to learn more.

[email protected]

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DREXX

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posted December 06, 2000 07:26 PM

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WCP:

My diet before the short cycle was about 3500 cals with a 33/33/33 ratio (protein,carbs,fats).

My diet on cycle was 4250 cals with a 30/40/30 ratio.

For the last 3 weeks I have been trying to stick to the same diet but my hunger isn't there. I don't finish all my meals. I would estimate I am eating about 3500-3750 cals now and keeping the gains.

thefantom1:

That is right only one injection on day consisting of 1250mg of TEST. Nothing on week 2 I wanted to let all the TEST leave me before day 15. Some was left from the sust but I didn't crash so it's all good.

ex-infantry:

Next one will be 1500mg of Enanthate on Day 1 and then 35mg of Dbol/day. The rest will stay the same as the previous cycle...

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ryker77

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posted December 06, 2000 08:36 PM

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So what exactly was this cycle??
Is it only one shot at day one or is there another injection at week 2??

Seams like alot of us are intersted in this. Any other short cycle results out thier?>>>

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harmonic

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posted December 06, 2000 10:51 PM

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Thanks for sticking up for me man. That Boucer freak needs to bounce his ass out of here.


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THE BOUNCER

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posted December 06, 2000 11:27 PM

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HEY DREXX YOU AND HARMONIC SEEM TO BE PRETTY CLOSE, SO I WILL STOP INTERFERING WITH YOUR GUYS RELATIONSHIP. BOTH OF LITTLE KIDS CAN KISS MY ASS.


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