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 E2 and the boys can you help a bro out?
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 87 |
okay bros here it is I need help with my next cycle. deca,test,ref-b,clomid week deca test ref-b 1 400 600 1cc 2 400 600 1cc 3 400 600 1cc 4 400 600 1cc 5 400 600 1cc 6 400 600 1cc 7 300 400 -- 8 200 200 -- clomid 1 week after last shot of test 100mg ed for 1 week 50 mg ed for 1 week 50 mg eod for 1 week 50 mg eod for 1 week and I am going to add 25mg of cynomel ed for 8 weeks to speed up my matabolism. I have more deca and test but I only have 50cc of ref-b if anyone can cycle this better please let me know!! I have 20ml of deca 200, 30ml of test 200, 50cc of ref-b and 50cc of equipose, 200, 25mg cynomel, 30 clomid at 50mg each thanks for the help bros,I have done the research but Im stuck on the ref-b dosage.     | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 5600 |
I'd either up the test or lower the deca i like to keep a 2:1 ratio of test:deca, just to be on the safe side. Use clomid at 100mg ed for 2 weeks at the end instead of one, as well as 50mg eod during the whole cycle. The 25mg of ref B per day is fine, but dont' forget to break the doseage up!! ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 87 |
E2 when you say break the dosage up what do you mean? and why do you use clomid eod throughout the cycle? one more thing I have more deca and test so is it better to drop the deca to 300mg a week and leave the test at 600ml a week or is it better to leave the deca at 400mg a week and up the test to 800 mg a week? thanks for the help | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 191 |
when he says break it up he means take it every 4 hrs to reach your total dosage per day- I dont know why you would take clomid every other day in this stack -maybe because no other antiestrogen is in there- i would start clomid 2 weeks from the end of the cycle. [This message has been edited by Tomo (edited December 04, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 165 |
The clomid is ran EOD throughout the cycle so you do not suppress your HPTA. I personally would go with the higher test dosage and I suspect you will get the same response from that androgen freak E2. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 3515 |
I think that dosage on the ref-b is a little low, don't forget its slightly underdosed compared to the pinkies. I'd do about 35mg per day. I personally would like to see that cycle stretch for 10 weeks at least. ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 137 |
Bro..my current cycle is very similar. I would run the Ref-b for only 4 weeks...you really won't need it week four when your test and deca kick in. In my opinion orals are best used to jump start a cycle. The exception to this would be winny. I wouldn't go much longer than a month because of liver toxicity. I would run it 3 weeks at 2cc per day (50 or so mg equal to 10 d-bols) and 1 week at 1cc per day. It is only active for 4 hours so you need to take it every 4 hours, Even waking up to do so. That is what is meant by breaking the dosage up. In other words don't take all 2cc's at once. On a 3cc dart 1/6th of 2cc's is just over 3 lines on the syringe.Hope this helps. Mike ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 5600 |
Yes i'd agree to up the test instead of lowering the deca, but if you can't get more test, then lower the deca, sometimes you have to compromise, and i agree with Slopain increase the length to 10 weeks. The ref b, should be divided, ie you're taking 1cc ed lets say, then you take 1/4 cc 4 times a day. much better than taking just 1cc once. The clomid eod is to act as a mild antiestrogen and to keep the hpta online as Tronco said. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 87 |
okay boys so if I was to lengthen the cycle to 10 weeks how would that work I don't have enough test to do it at 800 mg a week for 10 weeks and with a taper at the end I would be looking at 35cc I only have 30 cc, I have enough deca to do it, I have 20cc and need 19cc for a 10 week program I guess? Im not sure how to map this one out I have never done a 10 week cycle. as well about the ref-b should I only take it for 4 weeks at 2cc ed for 3 weeks and then 1cc for the last week? oh yah one other thing I also have 50 cc of eq, I was going to use later but am open to suggeations? [This message has been edited by dickie (edited December 05, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 328 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 87 |
I hate bumping my own posts but I need some help on this one!! 10 weeks is throwing me off. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1249 |
just like to add that i dont like the taper method ------------------ |
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posted December 04, 2000 04:10 PM
