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  DNP...Burns stored calories or Calories in use?

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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 12:21 PM

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Does it burned stored calories, or calories i eat through out the day?


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The Shadow

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posted December 04, 2000 12:38 PM

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I would assume stored fat, if it simply burned what you ate and nothing else, fat loss would not be as dramatic.


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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 12:58 PM

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I was just wondering b/c i am on a bulking cycle and need the calories... But also am interested inburning some extra cals


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posted December 04, 2000 01:02 PM

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If bulking then save the dnp for a cutting cycle. Would be better. When bulking you need to eat like you are bulking, why would you want to burn calories unnecesarily.

You will gain much more weight that way and the get rid of the excess fat next time around

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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 01:13 PM

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No, i said i don't want to burn the excess cals thats why i am asking if it is burning calorie reserves... I don't do cutting cycles... Dont like them... If i wanna cut, i throw in fina at the end of the cycle...

This is why i want to do the DNP: My friend and I bought 100g capped... He is using them and not getting any results. So i wanna see if i can get the results before we confront this guy we got them from... Plus i wouldnt mind burning some fat to keep me leaner on my cycle


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posted December 04, 2000 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Rugby:
I was just wondering b/c i am on a bulking cycle and need the calories... But also am interested inburning some extra cals

Sorry I must have misread. You need the calories but wish to burn excess calories? Dont you mean you wish to burn off fat instead of the calories for growing. Either way why burn calories when you are bulking?

Maybe im just reading it wrong bro.


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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 01:36 PM

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I meant i am needing the calories to bulk but i also want to burn some extra fat... Fina will do the trick soon as i put it in my cycle... I was just wondering if it would give me problems bulking.


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posted December 04, 2000 01:48 PM

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Sorry about the confusion Rugby. (From what I have read and heard DNP can raise metabolism by as much as 50%). I see this being counter productive unless you fancy eating 2 times as many calories as normal. If this is the case then you would need to up your calorie intake in order to get the required number of calories to grow.

My guess is save it for after your cycle or at the end of it but not inbetween.

Would like to find some more info about this myself so bump it goes.

Just found this article for you:

Many so called Gurus are recommending incorporating DNP as a component to any steroid cycle to ensure that weight gained is purely muscle and not fat. While this certainly works great on paper, application is a little different. I am a firm believer in training and eating to grow while on a heavy cycle (and what other kind is there?) Anyone who has any kind of contact with any professional bodybuilder in the off season will see that the chicken and rice thing has been thrown out of the window and that junk food rules the day. Their drug use is of such magnitude that eating clean would simply not supply the necessary calories for growth. Have you ever tried to consume 5000+ calories while on a low fat diet? Good luck. So, while they are certainly growing like a weed in the off season, they also tend to put on a bit of fat. Big deal. I�m going to let you in on a little secret. The only time those guys look like that is when they are on stage. Many people assume that the top guys are in shape all year round because they never see any pictures of them in the off season. And with good reason. Most (not all, but most) bodybuilders look like a chipmunk with a walnut in each cheek in the off season. These fellow tend to get a bit fat and bloated from their diets and heavy drug use. Now taking DNP while cycling will certainly help keep you leaner. It will also make you weaker, uncomfortable, and more quick to tire from a workout. Obviously not a good combination for consuming mass quantities while kicking ass in the gym is it? Therefore, we need a schedule for DNP administration. I�m a firm believer in down time from cycles (another article me thinks?), not because of receptor down regulation but from other factors. I propose a system where the athlete uses AS for 10 weeks, similar to the system advocated by Paul Borreson, followed by three weeks of down time. During this down time, 24 days actually, the athlete uses DNP in conjunction with insulin and T3, losing body fat while maintaining lean body mass. The dosing schedule would be as follows:

Last day of AS administration
Days 1-8 DNP with insulin and T3
Days 9-16 DNP is not used, insulin use continues, T3 continues for days 9-12
Days 17-24 DNP with insulin and T3
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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 03:46 PM

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Interesting... Thats kinda weird... Thats how i planned on bridging my cycle... I am interested in that combination... Supposedly the gains lost from the end of the cycle is not to doo catabolic reasons rather due to the lack of protein synthesis ocurring in the cells, therefore the t3 is a post cycle must... The DNP will help your receptors and add an anabolic rebound as well as shredding loads of fat. The slin will help to shred fat and build a little extra muscle as well as adding some strength... Don't forget the creatine and clomid in there.


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posted December 04, 2000 04:02 PM

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I'm sorry but you question really doens't make much sense, dnp doesn't work in the way you think it does, it's and inhibitor of oxidative phosphoralation. It prevents the conversion of adp into atp. By blocking this process it causes energy to be released in the form of heat.

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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 04:04 PM

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I understand what you are saying E2... but in english that means that it is an advanced ECA stack... It raises the body heat and causes calories to be burned at a faster rate


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RojoDiablo

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posted December 04, 2000 04:08 PM

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Everything i've read suggests that you shouldn't take T-3 and DNP at the same time. It's supposedly easier to screw up your thyroid. DNP burns fat like a mo-fo, just use it sometime when your not bulking, so you can get the full effects, just my .02


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