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 To Taper or not to Taper...Within lies the answer
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Pro Bodybuilder 
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These 2 articles have been taken off of anabolicextreme.com and should enlighten some of you out there. Tapering is a Waste of Time Typical cycles are designed in a tapered fashion, starting low and slowly rising to the maximum dose. Once the maximum dose is reached, these cycles begin to steadily decline in dose to reach a very small amount at the end. The theory behind these cycles is as follows: At the start of the program, the body doesn't require much in the way of anabolics to grow. As the cycle progresses and growth occurs, more steroid is needed to maintain growth. At the peak of the cycle, the amount of steroid is slowly decreased to allow the body to return to a normal hormonal state. This ensures that the body does not experience a shock as the endogenous production of androgens has been restored through the gradual tapering of exogenous androgens. Unfortunately, this theory of cycling is flawed. Designing cycles in this fashion usually ensures that the optimum level of steroid to induce growth is only present in the body for a short period. Most of the cycle is either spent climbing towards this goal or retreating from it in the hopes of restoring the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis. When designing a cycle, the very first question that must be answered is what is the peak mg amount of steroid that will be used during the course of the program. This amount of steroid should be used for most of the cycle, with little fluctuation at the beginning and end. This ensures that an adequate dose of steroid is being used to induce growth throughout the length of the cycle. Concerns over maintaining or restoring proper function of the hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis (HPTA) are easily addressed via the use of a variety of pharmaceuticals. Once endogenous production of androgens has been halted due to excessive levels of androgens in the blood, the only effective methods of restoring normal hormonal function is by cleaning out or the use of pharmaceuticals like clomiphen or HCG. Tapering to restore normal hormonal function is a waste of time since it can easily be restored using these drugs. TAPERING CYCLES IS BULLSHIT ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 73 |
I agree with these articles 100%. When your using test it's pointless to taper because it stays in your system weeks after your last injection. However with dianabol tapering helps when you come off by making the jump smaller for your natural testosterone to kick back in. Your natural production has an easier time restarting and you keep more of your gains.  | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1249 |
if you use proper post cycle test boosters then tapering is not necessary. I never taper and i never have a problem ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 429 |
bump ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 4909 |
Those articles are wrong! I bet these are the same geniuses that cycle high dosages year-round, too. Tapering is necessary in order to prevent a shock at the end of a cycle. There is a huge difference between ending with 250mg and ending with 750mg of test. Yes, your natural test is stopped but tapering allows for a more gradual lowering of test. Therefore the raising of test can resume faster. A crash disorients the body and takes longer for natural test to return. Same goes for Deca. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 429 |
I dont believe you do need to taper at the end of a cycle unless going above 1000mgs/wk. Providing you boost natural test back up before ending the cycle and take advantage of clomid as well as the ZMA formula and so on. Different views I guess ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 100 |
interesting. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 955 |
I think tapering d-bol is a waste of time, I never do it......I just let the test kick in, then everything is good......lol.... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 145 |
tapering is a myth. people that taper are misguided. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 45 |
rohadawg, you are a fucking idiot. You are just like a little sheep. You don't even know why you posted what you said. Give me a good reason why tapering is a myth and I will apologize. You moron. [This message has been edited by TRUTH (edited December 05, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 523 |
Bump Real good info especially seeing as it was something I've been looking into. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 145 |
hit a sore spot TRUTH? do more research. read, read, read. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 45 |
Exactly as I though. You are a moron. Good answer, you sheep. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1209 |
Never, go strong go hard, don't taper. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 147 |
do you still need to taper the test if, after you're done with it, you still have a couple of weeks to go on another steroid like equipoise? | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
There isn't any inherent problem with tapering off at the end of the cycle. However, most people fail to effectively do so as a result of taking way too much. BTW, when you come off a cycle, you might want to consider taking 20-25 mg or so of dbol everyday when you first wake up. According to Bill Roberts, this is essentially like being off of steroids. The logic is quite sound as well: virtually all testosterone production occurs at night (during sleep), and by taking the dbol in the morning, your LH will not be suppressed at night due to the short half. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 960 |
TRUTH, Please reconsider your handle. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 17 |
2Thick the problem is that the Depot preparations are themselves tapering in the concentration they release into the blood. If you quit test cold turkey at 750mg there will be a 1-week period with high test and a 2-3 week period where there is inhibition with medium test in the blood, I believe. Then the natural recovery will begin maybe as far as 2-4 weeks after the cycle ends. In the descending dosages scheme, if you finish at 250mg there will be only 1-2 weeks before recovery begins. However, you could have just spend those 500mg,250mg weeks on higher dosages in exchange for a longer recovery. Just depends on what you want to do. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 429 |
Vengeance, I dont believe you got that information all correct. He recommended people take orals first thing in the morning if they wished to do short cycles without shutting the natural test production down. Longer cycles and with injectables it is gonna happen whether you like it or not. By using clomid you are gonna bring natural test back up as well as all the other 1001 supplements on the market that are suppossed to do so. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 10 |
I always finish my cycles with fast acting drugs to speed up the regeneration of my receptors. DURABOLIN | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 716 |
with some its not afactive to tapper in with some you can. ------------------ |
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posted December 04, 2000 12:14 PM
