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dafoe69

Amateur Bodybuilder

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From:Right next door
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posted December 04, 2000 10:47 AM

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I've heard everyone say to use clomid, HCG, Primo, and tons of others to keep most of your gains. So my question to you is whats the best way?

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dafoe69

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posted December 04, 2000 11:09 AM

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I searched and want peoples opinion

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JayisCrazy

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From:An Igloo somewhere in Canada
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posted December 04, 2000 11:34 AM

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Clomid and keep you workouts highly intense when off cycle. Also the type of steroids you use and how they are stacked often tell you how much you'll keep.
Stick around and learn learn learn!
Cheers,
Jay


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Spunky

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posted December 04, 2000 11:48 AM

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I disagree with keeping your workouts "highly intense" when you come off the cycle. Your body is in a catabolic state when u come off the cycle. Your testosterone is low, so its not a good idea to kill your muscles post cycle, atleast not for 2-3 weeks. At the end of my current cycle im going to start my EQ and clomid and take a week off from lifting, and keep eating alot. This works good for me.


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dafoe69

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posted December 04, 2000 11:50 AM

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How much EQ?

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dafoe69

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posted December 04, 2000 12:02 PM

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How much EQ?

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 04, 2000 12:19 PM

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300mgs/week will be effective,and not disturb H-P-T-A function to any great degree.400mgs/week of primo would do wonders as well,and probably not cause ANY inhibition of test production...


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AZtallguy

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posted December 04, 2000 12:26 PM

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I posted this yesterday but it helps to take a break post cycle. that way you don't send your muscles into a overdriven catabolic state. At this point you don't have the test in your body to properly feed your muscles.


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whodaman

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posted December 04, 2000 12:37 PM

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what about the gains keepers formula on ajc's site....does anyone have any thoughts on that? Also, there was just an article on mesomorphosis.com that said clen (which is anti-catabolic) and a couple other drugs (that I've never heard of) would help


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lawnsaver

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posted December 04, 2000 01:01 PM

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Its a little more advanced, but I'm on a insulin/creatine/glutamine stack. I'm coming off a eq/300mg/week/10 weeks and winny/150mg/week/for 8 weeks cycle so I didnt get clomid. I'm up 1 lbs strength and size still there. I'm getting awsome pumps.
I'm taking 10ius when I wake and 10ius post workout.

This isnt for begginners so research before you take this route.

As for the above posts, for the money 300mg of eq would be my choise.

If money is no object go with 40mg of anavar


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2Thick

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posted December 04, 2000 01:12 PM

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Use clen for 2 weeks post-cycle and then pgf2 for 2 weeks (along with the clomid).


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Rugby

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posted December 04, 2000 03:56 PM

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I dont agree with clen use being anti-catabolic... Even though you may be in a catabolic state, that doesn't cause you to lose your gains... The gains will be lost b/c your cells protein synthesis. You need to boost prot. synth. via T3... This is the best gainskeeping stack

Day 1-14:Insulin 20iu post workout, 30g Creatine, 600mg DNP, 1-1.5 tab t3, 100mg clomid ed
Day 14-21: Insulin 20iu Post workout, 30g creatine, 1.5 tab t3, 100mg clomid ed

I won't touch HCG until they come out with a synthetic version of it... Its made from pregnant women's urine.


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted December 04, 2000 06:34 PM

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Use PGF2 with DMSO and then tell me if it works


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dafoe69

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posted December 04, 2000 07:34 PM

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I'm a newbie pgf2?

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