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Natural Wonder

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posted December 04, 2000 10:24 AM

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Damn that's a long ass title.
i heard good things, like it keep the blood pressure down but does it take away from gains (besides water).
What about something natural like:
Taraxatone


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GetHuge

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posted December 04, 2000 10:32 AM

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I wouldn't unless blood pressure becomes a problem. The theory is that eventually, your body will get used to holding the extra weight and will increase your vascular system to accomodate it. Also, there is a theory that the water will strech the skin, leaving more room to grow. Not sure if any truth to either, but interesting nothingless.


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Decaman

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posted December 04, 2000 10:45 AM

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Most guys will tell you taraxtone is useless, I like it, it think it works. As far as the water retention issue, if I can avoid it I will at all costs. Right now I am using arimidex with my bulking cycle, to me 10 pounds of water are not gains, and the stress on your organs is not worth it. In additon who wants to take a gram of test and deal with all that bloat. So my answer will be yes, i owuld take something for the water retention

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Natural Wonder

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posted December 04, 2000 11:06 AM

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Thanks decaman. I'm about to do my second cycle (light)
sust 500mg
deca or eq -400mg
a week and I don' want my parent to notice. And water is ez to notice..
will that help?


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BigWh1tey

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posted December 04, 2000 11:36 AM

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I back that mothafucka Decaman , using the anti estrogens / estrogen blockers is always the way to go . Look into :
proviron
arimidex
nolvadex (tamoxifen)
clomiphene

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dahmer

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posted December 04, 2000 11:38 AM

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I was a big moonface during this cycle. I started to get that evil itch in my left nipple. I started popping Nolvadex and the itch and water are now gone. My weight is not really up, but the water is mostly gone!


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conan69

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posted December 04, 2000 11:55 AM

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I LOVE WATER RETENTION

Not to many people do but for me, my joints feel better, i feel alot stronger, and believe it helps you grow better for various reasons

i would take Anti-e for other reasons not the water

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Beezers

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posted December 04, 2000 01:02 PM

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I agree with conan. I enjoy the water as it can be quite helpfull. I am much stronger and the joints feel better. I look bigger(I don't get moon face). I find when I do control the water retention I loose a greaat deal of strength and comfort. I see no reason to worry about it when the goal is to bulk.

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d Impact

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posted December 04, 2000 01:06 PM

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I would only do it if the headaches are really bothering you from the blood pressure increase.


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Natural Wonder

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posted December 04, 2000 01:14 PM

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So you think it's best thing to get is anti-estrogens Vs. a dieretic?


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Loophole Genetics

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posted December 04, 2000 04:31 PM

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I've asked this question before, and didn't get any good responses. My own experience, though, is that I've remained alot stronger, I mean ALOT STRONGER, when I let my body hold all the water it wanted. When I experimented once, by using Lasix during my cycle, I could feel my body losing strength when I was in the gym. Personally, I love the water retention to a certain point, and for just a certain amount of time. My joints feel better when bloated, and I feel like I could crash through a steel wall, I get so strong. I've never had a real problem with high blood pressure either, and I like to use lots of test. Thats my body though, not yours.


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latona

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posted December 04, 2000 04:42 PM

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I agree with Beezers and Conan - Water is a good thing. In addition to the excellent reasons they gave (strength gains and better joints), your muscles are mostly water, anyway, so the added water is stretching your muscle fibers and helping them grow. It also helps reduce recovery time. It's true that after you come off a cycle of highly anabolic substances like d-bol, test, or deca, you will lose some water weight, but your muscle fibers will already have been stretched and it will be easier for you to add back more muscle over the next 2-3 months or so while off. Here's an example from my last cycle. I gained 25 lbs, and then lost 9 when I cam off, but over the following two months, I gained 8 lbs WITHOUT AS - so the net loss was only one pound. I am pretty sure that this is because my muscles were already used to being larger from being on the cycle - sort of like muscle memory.


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posted December 04, 2000 04:49 PM

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i would agree that i like some water retention, to an extent. Moonface is one thing but when my arms blow up and i feel like a king, i am glad that my muscles are all filled up.

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Tomo

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posted December 04, 2000 05:27 PM

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ther is a fine line here- we alllike some water- but that moon face has got to go-tomo


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hooch

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posted December 04, 2000 06:20 PM

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What is moon face???? Is it just a puffy face??

I'm doing sust 750mg/week and deca 400MG/week..can I expect a moon face.

What would 10mg of nolv EOD do for me? I want to hold some water but not a shitload.

I just started my third week...


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Beezers

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posted December 04, 2000 07:13 PM

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Yeh, moon face is a puffy face due to edema. No biggie as it will go away when you loose the water.

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