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BIG Swol

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posted December 03, 2000 11:01 PM

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What's you guys opinions on Shawn Ray's and Lee Preist's placing at this years olympia?Ronnie Coleman looked great but I think that Shawn Ray could have definatly beaten Kevin Levrone and maybe gave Coleman a run for his money.Ray was leaner ,fuller,and harder than he was in some of his previous showings and these bigger guys are sacrificing symmetry and leanness for size.What are you guys opinions on this??


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Blackop

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posted December 03, 2000 11:18 PM

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Preist gets the short end of the stick ever since the incident in 98. It's a shame, he's the man.
-Blackop


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BIG Swol

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posted December 03, 2000 11:20 PM

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Did you see the pictures of the olympia in this month's FLEX?


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BIG Swol

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posted December 03, 2000 11:24 PM

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bump-bump


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted December 04, 2000 12:01 AM

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Shawn looked awesome, much better than flex. I also though that Dexter is very underated. If you look at the O comparison pics he possesses a certain "real muscle" hardness that alot of the bigger competitors lack. Priest got shafted, but then again he has looked better (was it the NOC two years ago or something that he really nailed it?).


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BIG Swol

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posted December 04, 2000 01:21 AM

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Thanks fellas anybody else out there?


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BigBazooka

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posted December 04, 2000 01:51 AM

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i'm not a fan of ronnie.. i hope that joe and ben were watching jay leno show when ronnie was on it and stroking their cats and saying, "kill him. kill the big schmuck. shawn will win next time".

or something like that..


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Valdez

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posted December 04, 2000 02:11 AM

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priest, dexter, shawn. my top three favorite bodybuilders at the moment. maybe it's cause I'm 5'7"??? huh?... LOL

all three of these dudes have a healthier look (especially shawn) that other bodybuilders just don't have. they look better, yet just are physically smaller.

the bigger guy will almost always win it.


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CN1

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posted December 04, 2000 05:23 AM

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those mutherfuckers couldnt beat coleman in their wildest dreams, get over it..............ronnie coleman is the best!


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ThePitbull

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posted December 04, 2000 10:27 AM

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Guys like Priest and Ray have been getting the shaft for quite awhile now. (I could be bias though, I 'm the same height as Priest) Granted, Priest was off at the O this year. Ray looked good. It doesn't matter, IMO the judging is ALL fixed anyway.
If they judged properly/fairly, it wouldn't matter how tall the competitor was. And it shouldn't! Fuck, if Priest was 6' and carried the same amount of mass on that frame as he carries now he would be competing at 300lbs at the least!

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Code

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posted December 04, 2000 10:37 AM

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I sure don't think any of the above mentioned contenders could/should have beat Coleman.

But Pittbull speaks volumes, judging may not be fixed- but it sure looks like it if you look at the placings for each show over the past few years.

The reason is that they never rotate judges. It's the mo-fo's each and every damn show.

Weider also plays with the comps a bit, not letting people comptete at certain shows to ensure another person's win etc.

Why didn't Coleman compete al last year? People would have gotten very friggin' tired of watching him win or place each and every one of them.


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The Ghost

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posted December 04, 2000 11:01 AM

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How tall is Coleman anyway? I thought he was like 5'10" or something like that. Isn't Shawn like 5'7"?? That isn't too much difference in height.


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ThePitbull

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posted December 04, 2000 02:24 PM

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BUMP for more opinions???

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Hugh Gellatts

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posted December 04, 2000 03:07 PM

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TBM from the AE board is 5'4" and has a pic with Shawn where they look pretty close in height. My guess is that Ray is actually 5'5". Priest also seems about 5'3", even though he is listed at 5'5" (look on renegade photo of texx-flexx (5'3") and him).

I know alot of people who have met Levrone, and they all are surprised that he actually is only about 5'8". Funny, because he looks alot taller in the pictures.


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CN1

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posted December 04, 2000 04:04 PM

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ronnie coleman is about 6'1, he towers over sean ray and those guys, in that muscle mag with coleman on the front it has all the olympians who competed on stage together, and he TOWERS over the shor guys.


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Wfabrizio

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posted December 04, 2000 07:33 PM

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What? No way, Coleman is huge. He deserved it. Way bigger and better defined than the others. Coleman is a monster.


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BIG Swol

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posted December 04, 2000 07:51 PM

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Wfabrizio,if you think that Ronnie was more defined than all the others than you must have been looking at some other pics than the ones I saw.Take a look at Coleman's legs and abs.


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gonnabehuge

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posted December 04, 2000 08:06 PM

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I am a big Lee Preist fan. The guy looked awesome- lean and hard with the best arms in the business. I find his condition amazing considering he is known to get in the 280's off season and competed at 212!!! Ronnie is a monster and Flex magazine made it out like Kevin Leverone almost upset the applecart...bullshit I have my doubts as to whether he was the second best guy out there.
Shawn should have placed ahead of Flex and he and Flex both know it.
But thats just my opinion
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CN1

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posted December 04, 2000 11:40 PM

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in the magazine photos ronnie is harder than the other competitors, you guys need to get out and see the photos, because it tells the real story, there is no way the other competitors can even hang with coleman, man he is the best and for the smalltimers who hate here is a big DICK for you all.


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Soma

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posted December 05, 2000 12:17 AM

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Coleman is 5'10.5" look on the web at any site- he isnt over 6' for sure.
-Soma


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Valdez

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posted December 05, 2000 12:45 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by Valdez:
priest, dexter, shawn. my top three favorite bodybuilders at the moment. maybe it's cause I'm 5'7"??? huh?... LOL

all three of these dudes have a healthier look (especially shawn) that other bodybuilders just don't have. they look better, yet just are physically smaller.

the bigger guy will almost always win it.


I stand by my opinions. these are my favorite bodybuilders.


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Wfabrizio

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posted December 05, 2000 10:44 AM

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Big Swol, the defining look of Coleman is that he can maintain symmetry at that size. All of his components balance the package. Yeah, maybe he isn't as "ripped" as some of the other competitors, but when posing beside these guys your eyes are drawn to Coleman.

Very impressive. Wonder what his cycles look like. They gotta be huge.


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ThePitbull

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posted December 05, 2000 12:55 PM

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CN1 - what's with that last respone anyway???

"here's a big dick for you all"

With responses like that, it leaves me to belive that the only "big dick" around is you - DICKHEAD!!!

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BIG Swol

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posted December 05, 2000 08:00 PM

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You think that us smaller guys have a prejudice against the big guys but I think that it's exactly the opposite.You big guys that have trouble getting lean after you pack on all that mass seem like your looking for an excuse to discredit the totally ripped 212lb. bodybuilder.


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CN1

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posted December 05, 2000 10:45 PM

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hey dont take my post to heart, but I just dont understand why people cant admit that coleman is the best, I mean when dorian or lee haney was winning I didnt hear people saying that so and so is gettin the shaft, you guys gotta give credit where credit is due, I think ronnie is phenomenal and lee haney or dorian couldnt stand next to him, thats not an opinion that is the cold hard facts, but hey everyone likes to down the best and those people are basically haters.


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Hungry1

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posted December 06, 2000 12:22 AM

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I think Levrone was btter that night that Coleman.


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KODIAK99

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posted December 06, 2000 12:53 AM

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PERSONALLY I THINK THAT ITS SORT OF RIGGED. . .IF YOU LOOK AT THE HISTORY OF THE EVENT PEOPLE SEEM TO WIN IN BUNCHES. EG: IF YOU WIN ONE YOU SHOW UP IN AS GOOD A SHAPE AS THE FELLA'S AROUND YOU, YOU HAVE A DECIDED EDGE. JUST AN OBSERVATION, BECAUSE PERSONALLY THERE WERE YEARS ARNOLD WON I THOUGHT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE, SAME WITH DORIAN AND YES NOW COLEMAN. . . I DO HAVE TO SAY LEE HANEY DESERVED EVERYTHING HE WON. JUST IMPRESSIVE COMPARED TO HIS PEERS.

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