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BigJay81

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Bro's what ya fink of this...Pretty interesting..Steroid use over the past 40 years has gone through a plethora of changes and it is often interesting to hear what people's opinions are in terms of what was taken and how much.

Let's take a look at the steroid use timeline.

1960's: The common vogue during this time period was amazingly simplistic and EXTREMELY conservative. Guys like Scott, Howorth, Ortiz, Draper, etc....would literally debate over whether they should up the dosage of D-BOL from 3 to 4 pills per day!! It was only in the latter part of the 60's that Deca was added to the D-bol. Typically during this era the bodybuilders would stay on maybe 4 months out of the year and take the remaining 8 months off.

1970's: The D-Bol and Deca was still the preferred stack in the early part of the 70's and in fact most bodybuilders would use this stack up to a show only dropping the D-Bol 3 days before the contest. As the decade progressed other stacks were experimented with such as Anadrol/Anavar....Deca/Winstrol...and Arnold's personal favorite: Primobolan Acetate and D-Bol. Towards the end of the decade thyroid drugs were just starting to be experimented with for that ultra-ripped look. Typically during this era in bodybuilding the bodybuilders would stay on for maybe 6 months out of the year max and have at least 6 months clean.

1980's: Ah...the good ole days. Any steroid you wanted could be obtained for ridiculously low prices...for example 100 D-Bol $8.00, 2ml of Deca $7.00. In the very early part of the decade, bodybuilders were still conservative in their doses and often stayed off for extended periods of time, but by the mid 80's bodybuilders NEVER came off and developed very sophisticated stacks. Here is an example of a typical off-season stack for an 80's bodybuilder:

TEST: 400MG PER WEEK

DECA: 400MG PER WEEK

PARABOLAN: 3 AMPS PER WEEK

D-BOL: 10 TABS PER DAY

ANADROL: 2 TABS PER DAY

NOVLADEX: 1 TAB PER DAY

CYTOMEL: 50MCG PER DAY

Pre contest would change slightly and look like this:

FINAJECT: 30MG PER DAY

WINSTROL: 50MG PER DAY

PRIMOBOLAN ACETATE: 20MG PER DAY

ANAVAR: 20MG PER DAY

PROVIRON: 50MG PER DAY

NOVLADEX: 20MG PER DAY

CRESCORMIN (GH)-4IU PER DAY

THIOMUCASE (INJECTION) ONCE PER DAY FOR THE LAST 2 WEEKS

CYTOMEL: 75MG PER DAY

ALDACTONE/LASIX: LAST 4 DAYS

The 80's also saw the introduction in so called designer drugs such as the East German "BOLASTERONE" which was actually made in California...it consisted of Anadrol-50, test proprionate, methandriol, anavar and sustenon in an H2O suspension. Also as the decade came to a close, some bodybuilders started to experiment with insulin and insulin mimickers.

The 1990's-present: Well guys pretty much use what they can get their hands on in LARGE doses with an array of anti-estrogens. Typically an offseason stack would last for 16 weeks and then have a 3-4 week break period. It would look like this:

PHASE 1:

1-2 GRAMS OF TEST PER WEEK

1-2 GRAMS OF DECA PER WEEK

50-100MG OF D-BOL PER DAY

OR

150MG OF ANADROL PER DAY

1 ARIMIDEX PER DAY

3 TESLAC

4IU OF GH PER DAY OR MORE

15-20 IU OF SHORT ACTING INSULIN AFTER TRAINING

PHASE 2:

50-100MG OF WINSTROL PER DAY

30-50MG OF HALOTESTIN PER DAY

100MG OF TEST PROPRIONATE PER DAY

40MG OF FINAPLEX PER DAY

1-2 ANADROL PER DAY

1 ARIMIDEX PER DAY

6 TESLAC PER DAY

2 NOVLADEX PER DAY

4 CYTOMEL PER DAY

As you can see by looking at the above course, it is divided into long acting and short acting phases.

Pre contest varies a lot and everyone uses as much GH as they can afford with as much CLENBUTEROL as they can tolerate along with a boatload of anti-estrogens. Most guys would prefer PARABOLAN AND ANAVAR...but must use what they can readily get. From the mid 1990's on, Diuretic use has become a science since a increasingly larger number of Pro shows are testing for them, so they vary a great deal.

Well there you have it for what it's worth, a brief history of steroid use in bodybuilding over the last 40 years. If nothing else, reading this information should give you a new found respect for guys like Arnold, Mentzer and Sergio. They used small amounts relatively speaking by the standards of the 80's and 90's yet built amazingly rugged and dense physiques. They had sub-par nutritional practices as well and nothing but dumbbells and barbells at their disposal. Just thinking of what Sergio Olivia might look like if he followed the practices of 90's bodybuilders is enough to send chills up mine spine. I'm thinking a 5'9'' 280lbs. freak with 23 inch arms and 30 inch waist 60 inch chest, 35 inch quads and 22 inch calves all in completely rock hard shredded condition. Until next time...Peace

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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 03, 2000 04:15 PM

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Great post BigJay...b for bump

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great post bro, bump to keep up top...
BTW I know this argument has been beaten to death... but I prefer the "old school" body builders like Arnold.


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BigJay81

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ARNOLD IS DA'MAN

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posted December 03, 2000 04:17 PM

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Another good post from ya', bro...interesting since I'm just getting into this "scene..."

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yup, looking at arnolds encyclopedia makes me wonder if i'd be better off owning a gym than lifting in one... i mean jesus, fucking monsters!


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BUMP TO THE TOP THIS IS GOOD HISTORY INFO


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I'd be interested in a book on this.

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Good post. I have a question though.Do you think that guys like Arnold and Sergio may have been ahead of there time in the area of knowledge of the juice?The standard practice back then may have been small doses but do you think that the elite bodybuilders of that era may have been breaking the mold by using alot more than ther rest?


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posted December 03, 2000 04:52 PM

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Great post Bigjay. Based on the space between
his front teeth, Arnold was rumoured to have used lotsa hgh.


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BigJay81

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Not sure but If their was a way to find out I would love to know. I wish they would just give up their knowledge and write a book "Behind the Scene Of BodyBuilding" It would be great.

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GREAT read Big Jay - and I agree � Sergio in his PRIME would rule on todays platform with the right coaching, diet, pharmecuticals..

he is THE MYTH...

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I would really only be interested in what compunds they were using in arnolds days, because I could never handle looking like the freaks today.


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This was a great post

Bump for the history of cycles

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Great post Bigjay...Bump again


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Good Post Bro....Everything goes in circles, it will take several deaths, or extreme health problems for the Pro's to back off...

Soon as someone wins with a new lean/line look....the stacks will change with it as well....

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I cannot imagine what's going to happen in 20 years...Are the pro's going to up their dosages even more?

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posted December 03, 2000 08:33 PM

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bump, nice post, mad interesting

same goes for football


soon linemen will be 4 bills, running 4.5 40's, and a qb will have to be at least 300 lbs, what a world we live in

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great post big jay!

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Steroid cycles from 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's and other interesting information can be viewed at www.nuclearnutrition.com or in the first issue of Gear U.Z.R magazine.


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PerfectRep,

I just got UZR for free. Will they send more for free? If not, is there somewhere I can subscribe?

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Swollen,
You can order Gear U.Z.R. magazine for $25 (four issues) by calling 1-888 GO NUCLEAR. This mag is solid. The guys at Nuclear Nutrition really know their shit. www.nuclearnutrition.com


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Excellent post.


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judging by my cycles- Im stuck in the old days-tomo


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I would say that I am more of an 80's type of guy. I remeber when you could get whatever you wanted. I had the no fear type of attitude then too when you would just take as much shit you could get your hands on and then go to a gym and kill yourself.


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Ravioli? Holy cannoli !!

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Source post mods. Give me his IP


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clean this shit up


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UP


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I'm surprised A-50 became a big part of the scene. Everthing I've read said that drug was all about water and temporary strength gains.


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Awesome! Thanks!

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Great post bigjay.


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Load of bollocks.

This is not a flame Bigjay81 as I know where you found that article, but just think about it for one minute. Do you think the guy's back in Arnolds day only used Dianabol, primo, Deca and some winstrol?

Anadrol 50 has been around since the 1960's, Testosterone was first injected into a human back in 1890. I remember reading a interview on one of the old time guy's who said that he suspected Reeves was injecting Testosterone. Ok the doses may have been less than they are using today but come on 2 or 3 dianabol per day.

The pro's today are playing the same games like Priest saying he only uses 200 mg of Deca and 100mg of Primo per week. Total and utter BS.

I remember reading a post on this board before in which one guy said a friend of his who trained with Arnold and Sergio watched them down handfuls of dianabol at a time.

The main difference between the guy's of Arnolds day and the guy's today apart from the increase in size is the ultra ripped look and that is brought about by using GH, T3 and a load of other things that they did not have access to back then.

The main reason for the 20 or 30 lb increase in size between the bodybuilders of Arnolds day and the bodybuilders of today is Growth Hormone and Insulin.

I trully believe that the doses the top pro's are taking have been passed down from one set of pro's/trainers to the next and If you are not a member of their exclusive club then you can only speculate what they are really taking.

So when someone tells you they know exactly what the pro's of the 1960's 70's and 80's where taking they are most probably talking through their arse.


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MadMitch, I totally agree. If people actually believe that Arnold built that body using 3 or 4 dianabols per day, and only used AS four months out of the year, well, they are setting themselves up for a big disappointment. True, I really don't believe that Arnold took 5 grams of test per week, but I also don't think he took only 140MG of dianabol per week either. That is ridiculous.


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Great FRICKEN' post!

UP!!!!


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