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F1hybrid

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posted December 03, 2000 02:24 PM

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Estrogen suppression in males: metabolic effects.

JOURNAL OF CLINICAL ENDOCRINOLOGY AND METABOLISM. vol. 85, no. 7 (2000 Jul): 2370-7.

We have shown that testosterone (T) deficiency per se is associated with marked catabolic effects on protein, calcium metabolism, and body composition in men independent of changes in GH or insulin-like growth factor I production. It is not clear,,however, whether estrogens have a major role in whole body anabolism in males. We investigated the metabolic effects of selective estrogen suppression in the male using a potent aromatase inhibitor, Arimidex (Anastrozole). First, a dose-response study of 12 males (mean age, 16.1 +/- 0.3 yr) was conducted, and blood withdrawn at baseline and after 10 days of oral Arimidex given as two different doses (either 0.5 or 1 mg) in random order with a 14-day washout in between. A sensitive estradiol (E2) assay showed an approximately 50% decrease in E2 concentrations with either of the two doses; hence, a 1-mg dose was selected for other studies. Subsequently, eight males (aged 15-22 yr; four adults and four late pubertal) had isotopic infusions of [(13)C]leucine and (42)Ca/(44)Ca, indirect calorimetry, dual energy x-ray absorptiometry, isokinetic dynamometry, and growth factors measurements performed before and after 10 weeks of daily doses of Arimidex. Contrary to the effects of T withdrawal, there were no significant changes in body composition (body mass index, fat mass, and fat-free mass) after estrogen suppression or in rates of protein synthesis or degradation; carbohydrate, lipid, or protein oxidation; muscle strength; calcium kinetics; or bone growth factors concentrations. However, E2 concentrations decreased 48% (P = 0.006), with no significant change in mean and peak GH concentrations, but with an 18% decrease in plasma insulin-like growth factor I concentrations. There was a 58% increase in serum T (P = 0.0001), sex hormone-binding globulin did not change, whereas LH and FSH concentrations increased (P < 0.02, both). Serum bone markers, osteocalcin and bone alkaline phosphatase concentrations, and rates of bone calcium deposition and resorption did not change. In conclusion, these data suggest that in the male 1) estrogens do not contribute significantly to the changes in body composition and protein synthesis observed with changing androgen levels; 2) estrogen is a main regulator of the gonadal-pituitary feedback for the gonadotropin axis; and 3) this level of aromatase inhibition does not negatively impact either kinetically measured rates of bone calcium turnover or indirect markers of bone calcium turnover, at least in the short term. Further studies will provide valuable information on whether timed aromatase inhibition can be useful in increasing the height potential of pubertal boys with profound growth retardation without the confounding negative effects of gonadal androgen suppression.


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KODIAK99

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posted December 03, 2000 02:29 PM

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Interesting article, but could this be summerized for the laymen dbol popper. Thanks

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Bchemist

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posted December 03, 2000 02:30 PM

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I don't use it, but good info nonetheless...

An increase in testosterone was observed as well as FSH and LH concentrations. I'm assuming that the increase in testosterone is free rather than being bound (inert).

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ryker77

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posted December 03, 2000 02:33 PM

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English please......


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conan69

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posted December 03, 2000 02:39 PM

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What i got from it is that either dose of Arimidex decreases aromitization by 48% and that it had no negative effects as per any other aspect of the male body


good post

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CLEMDOG

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posted December 03, 2000 03:01 PM

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interesting.

So I gathered that it does not have any significant changes in body composition. It does cause about a 50% decreases in estradiol concentration. Serum testosterone levels increased by about 50%. It also increased levels of LH and FSH.

Due to the fact that it causes increases in LH and FSH, would taking it throughout and after a cycle of androgens help to get your natural test production back to normal?


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F1hybrid

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posted December 03, 2000 05:02 PM

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Good question. I have to pick up the paper and read the discussion. My guess is that part of the suppression of natural testosterone has to do with E2, but during a cycle, other factors (androgens) would probably suppress it as well. Clomid and hCG would be best for restoring natural production, but some arimidex might help.

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