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 Need help on CUTTING UP and getting that VASCULAR look.
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| Author | Topic: Need help on CUTTING UP and getting that VASCULAR look. | ||
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Novice 
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Dear experts, I would grately appreciate some of your advice. I have been training for 3 years, since I was 18. My aim originally was just to be HUGE!! But in my maturity, I realise that, taking into account my genetics (I find it very hard to put on size) and the fact I am not a big player in the hormone altering world of the harsh steroids, I would be better suited going for quality and not quantity. I want to cut up, get that vascular look. I'm 5"9 11 stone. This is a new world for me now, and need some help. My diet is spot on, fat free, medium carbs, plenty protein. I have started doing 4 half-hour sessions on the bike a week on top of doing each body part once a week in the gym. Now all I need is some advice on what to take to give me an edge over training naturally. I know my ambitions cannot be achieved without that something extra. I'm not discounting steroids completely, just the harsh ones, you know - dianabol, testosterone (the best ones basically!!). Much appreciated. King Coopa     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 305 |
well you know you can take this stuff called primoblan....it is safe and will work good, i would stack it with clen (pill) | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 543 |
Convert stones into pounds please. Sounds like your training and diet are good, so if you want quality gains with minimal water retention, winstrol, equipoise, fina, anavar, deca, laurabolin, primobolan depot are some steroids you can choose from that would benefit you. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 473 |
Primobolan is a wonderfully mild, safe steroid. Oxandralone is very safe and promotes strength (and perhaps a little mass gain), but is even more pricey than the expensive Primo. EQ is good for putting on mass while promoting a hard, vascular look, and is reasonably priced. Fina is your best bet (some guys say newbies should stay away from it, I humbly disagree) for adding strength and mass while staying cut and lean. To save the flamers (lol) some trouble, I'll tell you that you should read up extensively, do some research, use the "search" for first cycles, and generally not asked to have things handed to you. Peace! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 543 |
Explain why fina can be used by any level juicer, Im undecided and have some right now, just need a kit. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1391 |
Primobolan the safest roid EVER, Winstrol (NOT so save) or Anavar (Oxandrolone) between those two for safety. But is you want that vascular look, try PGF2a, you will get it and that's a promise. There is more: you will keep it. Equipoise could be a good choice too, but wait untill the TTOKYO stuff arrives at 200 mgr/cc. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
Steroids, Steroids, Steroids! Thats all it takes to get cut up then guys? Not ephedrine, not Clen, not T3, not caffeine or any other fat burners? And how about DIET? Reduce calories below maintenance, up protein to about 5-600 grams/day carbs keep very low. Fat low as well except for EFA's and so on. Train smartely, and when all of these factors are put together then think about the muscle retainers/increasers ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1391 |
The problem with Ephedrine, caffeine, Clen, etc... it is only temporary. Besides nice for your prostate problems you are going to get sooner or later. ------------------ Don't look back, life is too short | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
oh, and you would use nothing except anabolics to get cut up? You wont change anything else. Yeah right. | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 19 |
Just for argument's sake, wouldn't you say that it would be difficult to ingest 500-600 g of protein/day and still keep your caloric intake below maintenance level? ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 392 |
For me it isnt that bad. 600grams of protein = 2400 calories. My Maintenance is about 3500. I drop to 3000 calories. Protein doesnt always go that high. 400, 500. This is only when im reducing bodyfat. I drink about 10 litres of water a day, mix it with all protein shakes.Multi Vitamin and mineral, liver cleansers and so on. This is just me. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 19 |
WOW! You must be one tough SOB if you can drink that many protein shakes per day. Personally, I have a hard time drinking 3-1000 cal shakes per day. Not at all a flame, I just wanted to say that you must have some good tasting powder or a good strong stomach  ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 492 |
On the topic of Fina for newbies: I'd say it would be better for someone with steroid experience because, it is the only one I've experienced that made me, let's say "edgy." Not test, not d-bol, equi, nothing but Fina affected me that way. Also, the stinky breath sides, the weird homegrown adimistration process, and possible inaccurate dosages... frequent shots, sloppy DMSO, etc.etc. It also is the only thing besides Clomid that gives me zits (well test puts a pimple or two on me back, but nothing like the Fina) It's just more complicated than a nice, clean shot of sus250, and popping a few d-bols a day. ------------------ "tank tops are for medium sized guys..." |
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posted December 02, 2000 02:49 PM