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macrophage69alpha

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posted December 02, 2000 02:05 AM

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A point well taken.

Diet is important, more important than most people realize.

Training is important, less important than most people realize.

Sleep is important, you forgot this one.

However, I take issue with your theory that Low doses will produce results in all comers.

Low doses are most likely to produce results in those that are genetically gifted, not yet reached their "natural" potential, have low levels of testosterone to begin, or respond exceptionally well to one of the synthetics deca in particular.

Some individuals require high doses, this does not mean that all individuals do. But your implication that low doses will produce dramatic results in everyone if their diet and training are good, is just PLAIN WRONG. Differences in # of receptors, binding capacity, natural testosterone and corticosteroid levels, differences in expression, differences in receptor physiology all play a role in what doses are needed to be effective. There are many other factors, but they are too numerous to describe here. The point is this is NOT a one size fits all world.

Peace

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BigJay81

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posted December 02, 2000 02:06 AM

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He's ALive I new you were lurking around here

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bad brains

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posted December 02, 2000 02:09 AM

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Damn its good to see a reply from Macro, seems like its been a while.......Your knowledge is badly needed around here Bro.......

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ghans

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posted December 02, 2000 02:25 AM

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Macro, I don't think he is (2Thick) saying that all BB's will do well on low dosages of a.s. Everyone is different.(sp). Training and diet will make the cycle. This is key to achieving your goals.

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DSPO

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posted December 02, 2000 02:31 AM

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Very good points


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Bubba

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posted December 02, 2000 04:12 AM

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It's a strange world where we don't all get our Fords in any colour we want as long as it's Black.


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MS

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posted December 02, 2000 04:45 AM

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Aaaaah Macro. I've missed your input lately. Is this just a flying visit? Of Course, if it's a newbie's first cycle, they probably have NO IDEA how much gear they need to make good gains. I guess this is where the "more is always better" approach to AS first came from?


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bigrand

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posted December 02, 2000 04:45 AM

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Damn bro, where have you been?


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The Ranger

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posted December 02, 2000 09:06 AM

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When the Dark One Speaketh....All shall listen and heed well his words, for upon mine ears they doth ring true...

Thanks Mac...O great defender of Test!!!

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted December 02, 2000 10:17 AM

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In short: No one thing works for everybody.


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The Ranger

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posted December 02, 2000 11:54 AM

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Let's give it another look out of respect for the Dark One....

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slabcat

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posted December 02, 2000 01:37 PM

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bump

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2Thick

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posted December 02, 2000 01:51 PM

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I did mention sleep.

Rest=Sleep

I already excluded long-time users from my response, so unless you are a freak then low dosages will help you grow well.

Finally, with my point, one size does fit all!! If you don't eat, train, and sleep well, then you will not grow well on steroids.


Why is it that no mater what I post, I get bashed for suggesting Deca...

Good to see you, Macro.

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conan69

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posted December 02, 2000 02:02 PM

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MC damn good to see you are still around
I was begining to think you were busy training for the next Mr. O

your forth point is a very good one

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fourhundred

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posted December 02, 2000 02:13 PM

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steroids are not magic they are real


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