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thefantom1

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posted December 02, 2000 12:18 AM

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I have been thinking about this every 4 hours with dbol...from what I understand the half-life of 5mg of dbol is 4 hours...now say you take 10mg of dbol..wouldn't the half life be longer than 4 hours?? Example..you drink 1 oz of alcohol and it takes your liver about 1 hour to burn it out of your system..now if you take 2 oz of alcohol your liver will take 2 hours to rid the alcohol from your system...My thinking is that this should also apply to the amount of dbol you take at one time..I would think that if you are taking, lets say 40mg a day...4 hours to burn off 5mg of the dbol..so if 8 tabs are taken at once (8 5mg tabs = 40) wouldn't it take the body 32 hours to burn the dbol out of the system?? 8 x 4 = 32.... Just wondering if anyone else thought about it this way or if there are any other thoughts on this...or do I just make no sense whatsover?? LOL

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posted December 02, 2000 12:25 AM

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No it doesn't work that way, But good thinking One of the better questions I have seen in a while.

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DSPO

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posted December 02, 2000 12:57 AM

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Quote originally posted by: macrophage69alpha
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Half life is used to calculate release time- which is only an estimate and varies considerably on individual lipid metabolism. Keep in mind, that even though it is rapidly inactivated- it is being constantly, and hopefully evenly, released over the day.
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Therefore, each 5mg tablet of Dbol is designed to release approximately 1 - 2mg of substance each hour, however, this will vary because of each individuals lipid metabolism rates.

So, if you took 40mg at one time instead of spreading it out over the 32hrs. the entire amount would peak within 3-4 hours.

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thefantom1

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posted December 02, 2000 04:35 AM

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DSPO--how do you come up with that figure?? I just don't quite get how the magic number with dbol is 4 hours?? I can see if its 5mg every 4 hours..but if you took 40mg at one time I would think it would take a lot longer to clear the system...And thanks BigJay for calling my question one of the better questions you have seen in a while.. make a note..."thefantom1 asked a good question" lol..hopefully we can get some more input on this one..


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posted December 02, 2000 04:42 AM

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Are you trying to say that liver works on dbol tabs one by one? Like they standing in line in front of the liver? Nature is smarter than that!


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thefantom1

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posted December 02, 2000 05:23 AM

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Paneri--Im not saying that..its just that from what I learned here is that the dbol has peaked after 4 hours..I would think that the more dbol one takes the longer it takes for it to peak in your system....and I don't know this for sure..its just my mind ticking here..Im trying to pick other peoples brains on this one....


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therealj

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posted December 02, 2000 05:29 AM

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ok plain and simple the way the body assimilates alcohol and A/S are two completely different animals...d-bol is meant to be spread over the day plain and simple...theres really no argument here....it's apples and oranges...maybe we should inject 5ml of winny once a week...hell by the d-bol rationale this higher dosage will magically take longer to release and have the same benefit as daily injections..right?........WRONG!!!!!!


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DSPO

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posted December 02, 2000 10:53 AM

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quote:

Originally posted by thefantom1:
Paneri--Im not saying that..its just that from what I learned here is that the dbol has peaked after 4 hours..

DSPO--how do you come up with that figure?? I just don't quite get how the magic number with dbol is 4 hours??


I am not sure what you are asking... In one post you state that you understand that the half-life of Dbol is 3-4 hours then in the next post you ask how I have come up with 4 hours. I did not come up with 4 hours as the magic number it is a fact that Dbol reaches its half-life in 3-4 hours.

Maybe this will clear things up. Release time is not dependent on the amount of Dbol that you take at one given time. Each tablet is designed like all other gear to release a specific amount of substance. All it means is that if you take it all at once your peak will be a lot higher since each tablet will release at the same time. I hope this helps, but if not ask away.

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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 02, 2000 10:54 AM

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Dbol peaks at about 85-90 minutes and has a half life of 3.2- 4.75 hours.

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thefantom1

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posted December 02, 2000 12:31 PM

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DSPO..your right about my post saying that dbol's half life is 4 hours...but...I was thinking that it should be longer if more was ingested, similar to my analogy with the alcohol..but as therealj (nice board btw) pointed out..I was comparing apples to oranges with the alcohol/dbol comparison..and then you pointed out that dbol's release time is not dose dependant...I thank you guys for your responses and input....like I said before..my mind was just thinking this whole 4 hours thing and I thought I would throw this idea out there..


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Anabolicum Mister

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posted December 02, 2000 12:54 PM

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Fantom,

In theory, the half-life would not change due to dosage. The half-life is a term that can be applied to a mathematical exponential decay. That means that the 'rate' of decay is linear. What does all this mean? Well, simply put, if the half-life is 4 hours and the dosage is 20mg, then after 4 hours there is 10mg (half) left, after 8 hours there is 5mg left, after 12 hours there is 2.5mg left, etc. etc.

Now if you take 40mg dbol, after 4 hours you have 20mg left, after 8 hours, 10mg, after 12 hours 5mg left.

Therefore, although the half-life is a constant, the amount of drug remaining at any given time depends on the dose.

Hope I didn't confuse things further.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted December 02, 2000 01:02 PM

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Bill Roberts, of mesomorphosis, is of the opinion (if I recall correctly) that if you take all your dbol in the morning, it doesn't compromise natural production of test. I forget his rationale, but it made some sense at the time. Any input on the topic is welcome (not to change your thread fantom bro, but it is a related topic). Peace!

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The_Iron_Game

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posted December 02, 2000 01:07 PM

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The reason for taking all in the morning was so as not to shut down natural test. The theory behind his argument was that by having all in the morning towards the end of the day natural test will not be effected.

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therealj

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posted December 02, 2000 04:01 PM

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fantom1...I re-read my post...my little rant wasn't directed towards you..sorry if it came off that way


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posted December 02, 2000 04:40 PM

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so, is it all in mornign or 1 every 4 hours? which is the BEST way to do it?

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Anabolicum Mister

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posted December 02, 2000 04:44 PM

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spread them out. If you want to take 30mg/day then 1 every 4 hours is good.


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BIG HURT

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posted December 02, 2000 08:17 PM

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I pop 10,an hour and 45 minutes,before I enter the gym.That way,there is a saturation in your blood while training.Trust Me,this is the best method.Take them all at one time,before you train.Learned this through trial and error

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thefantom1

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posted December 02, 2000 11:28 PM

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RealJ--not at all..your little rant was fine...and I took no offense...Im glad I posted this question...getting some very interesting thoughts and ideas...


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thefantom1

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posted December 03, 2000 02:19 PM

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Im going to bump this to see if we get anymore thoughts on what Dr.Atlas said and also what BigHurt said...(and don't worry doc about chaning the subject in this thread..its all interesting.)


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