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mike001

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posted December 01, 2000 08:20 PM

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hey, now i am not against you on this BUT, for some people gear is magic.. for instance; i have a friend who weighed 135lbs maybe around 8%bf. he started taking 1000mg of t-200 eth. along with some equipoise for 10 weeks "dont know the dose" but he literally gained 75lbs ( worlds record stretch mark )... until then he lost about half of those gains.. his next cycle; he gained 40lbs ( which makes him 205 ) NOW, he remains 200lbs...
now tell me that is not magic. his dad is 145 6', mother is about 100lbs. once again i am not going to disagree with you but i was just sharing some of my scenes..
thanks and have a nice day
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2Thick

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posted December 01, 2000 08:22 PM

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That is not common and not safe. I speak for the other 99% of gear users.


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KooL-AiD

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posted December 01, 2000 08:37 PM

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Are u on drugs?

Just because his parents are bean poles. doesn't mean he can't naturally put on muscle. So you think that All BB's parents are BB's?

Man. That's like saying a Skinny kid can't get fat.


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mike001

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posted December 01, 2000 11:25 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by KooL-AiD:
Are u on drugs?

Just because his parents are bean poles. doesn't mean he can't naturally put on muscle. So you think that All BB's parents are BB's?

Man. That's like saying a Skinny kid can't get fat.



KooL-AiD!!? jesus crist!!! i wasnt asking for your opinion!! it was just my point of view!! i am not against 2thick, he's cool as hell, he has helped me alot!!! i was just sharing, the damn post he made had 52 post, so i started another one so he would read it..... SIZE depends ALOT, as a matter of fact.. 25-50% if from genetics.. the rest is diet and gear. SO DONT TELL ME I AM ON DRUGS!!
i see posts that are against 2thick and automatic, everyone turns on the person.. now ME? i was just telling him something if you dont fucking mind, so DONT REPLY...
okay i fell better


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bsjohnson

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posted December 01, 2000 11:33 PM

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Mike001,
Hey man, I don't think A.S is magic(just my point of view), but I think it can aid someone in there goals. How did your friend look with all the weight he put on. Was he full of water and fat, or more muscle. Just wondering? Later man...


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Bubba

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posted December 01, 2000 11:42 PM

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Some people react very well to A.S. Ergo MAGIC!!!

Some people need alot to make gains. I'm pretty sure it depends on your receptors. Nice to hear you point of view.


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ghans

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posted December 01, 2000 11:45 PM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by 2Thick:
That is not common and not safe. I speak for the other 99% of gear users.

True. Gear alone will not produce the results desired. At least not for long.

ghans


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winstrol69

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posted December 02, 2000 12:14 AM

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what isnt common? I think that is highly common! A roid virgin 1000mg test and gain 75 pounds...make sense to me.


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BigJay81

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posted December 02, 2000 12:28 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by winstrol69:
what isnt common? I think that is highly common! A roid virgin 1000mg test and gain 75 pounds...make sense to me.

WELL THIS ISN'T COMMON UNLESS YOU ARE JUST FRIGGING DENSE. THIS WOULD BE THE WORST THING YOU COULD DO TO YOUR BODY. THE AMOUNT OF STRESS PUT ON YOUR BODY FROM THIS IS INCREDABLE AND COMPLETLY IGNORANT TO HEALTH ISSUSES.
USE YOUR HEADS

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Natymike

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posted December 02, 2000 12:32 AM

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75 pounds in 10 weeks can't be healthy.

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mike001

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posted December 02, 2000 03:43 AM

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YES, you guys are all right and the dude did this when he was 16 years old!!!!!!!!!
he only has until he is 25 years old to live, for one; heart failer from all the fucking air bubbles in the syringe!!"stupid"
and the rest is what you call ABUSE!!!!!!!!!
all this is from what the doc said about 2 years ago. some say air bubbles do nothing to harm!! but when you inject alittle too much air, it is a different story
hell, some people dont care, they just want to live a short life full of joy, until the end when it is long and painful, just like my friend which is what he chooses to do. and who ever asked if it was muscle or fat, water ect... it he lost alot of bodyfat. so i'm sure alot of it was muscle.
anyway, i going to bed... good night
-MIKE-


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Maverik

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posted December 02, 2000 02:19 PM

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Heart failure from all the air buubles in the syringe?? WTF?? Who told him this, his doctor??


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Beezers

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posted December 02, 2000 02:43 PM

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Let me bump for more opinions on this air bubble-heart failure deal. Seems to me that if somehow he did inject into a vein he would have felt the concequences imediatly. I don't think it would take nine years for a large air bubble and a couple cc's of juice to make its way to his heart. The only way to get air into the heart is by injecting into a vein. Can't be done by a safe intramuscular injection. And say he did get air into a vein, juice would accompany it. He would know rather quickly if something went wrong. Something aint right here.

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ManOSteele

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posted December 02, 2000 02:58 PM

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Well regardless what all of you say...genetics is the precursor to everything. All of us al predisposed genetic limitations so no matter how much AS you use you will not change that. You will just reach your genetic potential whether you realize it or not...so in a way they are "Magic" but I prefer to call them "conscieved science"...GoodLuck and GodSpeed!!!


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mike001

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posted December 02, 2000 03:45 PM

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by the way, he only worked out once a week all together.
the air bubble, he felt that immediatly!! BUT with the heart failer and the years to live is from the ABUSE(sorry if you mis-understood me ) and i heard that the air cant do shit to you when entering unless the needle is bigger"more wide" than the vein. i had a few people tell me this BUT maybe they are full of shit.
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Jeff_rys

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posted December 02, 2000 04:00 PM

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Genetics ? That's the word for the last 5-10 years. They hardly talked about genetics 25 years ago. So give me a break: unless there is a new generation of "new kids on the block" (and that would mean clones where made) no one has/had more genetics then Arnold, Sergio, Lou. In fact the only one with bad genetics i know off is Frank Zane. He never could put up the real size, so he probably had bad genetics.

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