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neal

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posted December 01, 2000 03:51 PM

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i got off my 8 week cycle about 5 weeks ago and was taking 3 cc's a week of reforvit-b. this is what i was told to take. but i recently read that this shouldn't have gave me any gains. i was wondering if all my gains were just in my head. my bench went up 50 pounds and i gained 13 pounds.


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Judge Smales

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posted December 01, 2000 03:57 PM

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Where did you read that "fact"? That's just silly


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timac

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posted December 01, 2000 03:58 PM

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were you injecting?


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neal

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posted December 01, 2000 04:02 PM

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YES I INJECTED WITH A 23 GA. 1 AND A FOURTH INCH NEEDLE IN THE GLUTE.


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timac

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posted December 01, 2000 04:05 PM

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do you have a problem with your caps.


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neal

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posted December 01, 2000 04:08 PM

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NO


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neal

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posted December 01, 2000 04:16 PM

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I BOUGHT IT FROM A GUY AND HE TOLD ME THAT I WAS SUPPOSE TO TAKE 3 CC'S A WEEK, PREFEREBLY EVERY OTHER DAY. I STUDYED UP ON IT AND THE ONLY INFORMATION I GOT WAS HOW LONG THE CYCLE SHOULD BE. AND THEN I JOINED THIS BOARD AFTER I WAS ALREADY FINISHED WITH MY CYCLE. I HAD PRETTY GOOD GAINS WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS FROM THE REFORVIT OR IF IT WAS IN MY HEAD.


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gonnabehuge

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posted December 01, 2000 04:16 PM

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bro, not to flame you but you would have been better of dumping the ref-b down the toilet. I don't know how you gained what you did but you might have been closer to the mark if you did 3cc's per day. Whoever gave you your cycle advice had no clue. If the ref-b was responsible for your gains, good luck keeping them. Next time do some research and form your own conclusions. Congratulations on the size and strength gains, as I am clueless as to how it can be attributed to the ref-b.
Mike

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neal

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posted December 01, 2000 04:19 PM

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THANKS MAN BUT I GOT THE GAINS AND I DON'T REALLY GIVE A FUCK HOW I GOT THEM.


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santo smith

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posted December 01, 2000 05:03 PM

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if you made the gains, and you are still up 13lbs then fuck what everyone else says....don't ever listen to that dude again.., hope you learn a lot know that you know about the board. Good luck, let me know if i can help you out with anything.


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lpw

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posted December 01, 2000 05:06 PM

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Why are you attacking Gonnabehuge? You asked if the gains sounded like they were from theh ref-b and he answered you. If you don't care how you got youring gains then what was the point of your post?

Anyway, You defintiely SHOULD care. If you're making gains, but they're not coming from the AS, then:
1.why waste the money on AS that isn't doing anything?
2. risk the health consequences of AS?
3. risk the legal consequences?

Personally, I think some of your gains might be from the ref-b, but it's hard to say. You probably also ate better and trained harder.


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gonnabehuge

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posted December 01, 2000 08:31 PM

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ok neal....since you are new here I am going to to do what I have should have done...
Ref-b is the liquid equivalent of d-bol.
The problem is it is a veterinarian steroid and has a reputation for being "dirty". By injecting it you were running the risk of an infection or an abcess. Ref-b should be taken orally. It needs to be in divided dosages preferably every four hours. This is because it only stays active for that period of time.
It is harsh on the liver and is best suited to jump start a cycle and used in combination with other anabolics.I prefer testosterone.
Typically, the gains achieved with d-bol of either type manifest themselves quickly in the form of strength gains and weight. This is due to water retention. In my opinion if you have held on to all 13lbs after five weeks....your gains weren't the result of your ref-b. This is because gains from ref-b generally are not permanent and subside after you discontinue use. I hope this helps and I am sorry if I came off harsh. A little knowledege goes a long way.
Mike

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neal

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posted December 02, 2000 03:49 AM

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thanks for all your replyes and i am sorry mike, for snapping back. i am actually glad that the reforvit probably didn't help me with those gains because now i know i can do it by myself. i still might continue to use AS depending on what it is. it is pretty hard getting gear in my town. nobody hardly does it and when they do have it they just have some for themselves. but thanks again for your replies.


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