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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 11:33 AM

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My cycles is going to look like this:
deca Sust250 dbol
Week1 400mg 500mg 50mg everyday
week2 400mg 500mg 50mg everyday
week3 600mg 750mg 45mg everyday
week4 600mg 750mg 45mg everyday
week5 800mg 1000mg 40mg everyday
week6 800mg 1000mg
week7 600mg 750mg
week8 600mg 750mg
week9 400mg 500mg
week10 400mg 500mg
I'll have extra deca and dbol if i should increase anything. I also have some clomid and nolvadex on hand. anything else I should add.

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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 11:41 AM

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bumping for some help

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santo smith

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posted December 01, 2000 11:42 AM

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I would start the sust at 1000mg per week and tapper down, i not sure i the deca...if you want to use that much, i think it is cool, i have a cycle like that in Jan, but i am keeping the deca at 400mg 1-7 and week 8 at 200mgs


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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 11:47 AM

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I thought you were supposed to pyramid the sust250? I have an abundance of deca and I don't really want it to sit around. Is there anything else I should add or change?

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santo smith

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posted December 01, 2000 11:53 AM

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is this you first time?


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PerfectRep

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posted December 01, 2000 11:53 AM

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I'll agree that you might want to start the sust at 1000mg and possibly taper down a bit. D Bol looks good, but I would think about not going any higher than 600mg of deca especially because you 'll be using plenty of sust. You could shorten this to 8 weeks and use 600mg of deca,1000mg of sust, and 50mg Dbol for the first 4 weeks. Then you could drop the D Bol in weeks 5 and 6 and use the same mgs of sust and deca as in weeks 1-4. Weeks 7 and 8 would be 400mg of Deca and 500mg of sust. Just a thought.


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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 11:58 AM

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Yeah its my first time and I've seen a lot of people say hit it hard on your first time. I haven't put my order in yet. Should I add some primo or cyp. I can get anything. I'll repost my cycle.

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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted December 01, 2000 12:04 PM

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dafoe-Like these guys said,start high on the sust and taper down.Throw some winny in there to keep control of the progesterone from the deca.Primo or winny,ran four weeks past your last shot of sust,would go a long way towards helping you maintain your gains....


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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 12:04 PM

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Week1 600mg 1000mg 50mg everyday
week2 600mg 1000mg 50mg everyday
week3 600mg 1000mg 50mg everyday
week4 600mg 1000mg 50mg everyday
week5 600mg 750mg 45mg everyday
week6 600mg 750mg 45mg everyday
week7 400mg 500mg
week8 400mg 500mg
How's this?

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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 12:05 PM

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How much winny or primo. I'm not familiar with either one?

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JayisCrazy

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posted December 01, 2000 12:06 PM

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I would do this (especially if it's your 1st cycle):
deca Sust250 dbol
Week1 200mg 500mg 50mg everyday
week2 400mg 500mg 50mg everyday
week3 400mg 750mg 45mg everyday
week4 400mg 750mg 45mg everyday
week5 500mg 750mg 40mg everyday
week6 500mg 750mg
week7 500mg 750mg
week8 400mg 750mg
week9 300mg 500mg
week10 200mg 500mg
I would NOT go that high on the Deca...Believe me! I like to taper myself. The Sust is self tapering so it isn't so nessecary but I would taper the Deca for sure to avoid problems.

Good luck,
Jay


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santo smith

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posted December 01, 2000 12:09 PM

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it's getting there, give me a sec i see what i can do


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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 12:17 PM

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one person tells me pyramid the deca oe tells me to start high. who's right?

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JayisCrazy

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posted December 01, 2000 01:24 PM

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It's personal preference. I pyramid...My body appeciates it!

Jay


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MattTheSkywalker

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posted December 01, 2000 01:59 PM

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Start the deca high bu tmake sure to taper it. 600mg/week is too much deca. Drop that down to 400, and taper it down too 200. That's plenty.

Save the leftovers for the next one.

Sust is self tapering and should be neither pyramided nor tapered. Keep it at 750 all of the weeks of the cycle.

Enjoy.


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Les

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posted December 01, 2000 02:02 PM

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that's way too strong for a first cycle...the test alone is plenty


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Valdez

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posted December 01, 2000 05:03 PM

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that is way to fucking strong for a first cycle. totally UNNECESSARY!!!!


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BigPhysicsBastard

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posted December 01, 2000 05:40 PM

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Agreed, why go with that much when you can get the same results with lower doses.


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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 07:26 PM

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I want to gain the most out of my first cycle. So who has had the best results from a first cycle?

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dafoe69

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posted December 01, 2000 07:47 PM

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bump for some serious help

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Retabolil2

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posted December 02, 2000 09:07 AM

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Well it looks good. But 800mg of deca per week is a dosage for vet but not for a newbie. If you`ll do this you will get good results but next time you won`t be so happy `couse you will need higher dosage. 200-500mg per week is enough for a first cycle my friend.


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Krusher

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posted December 02, 2000 10:39 AM

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Too much for a first..and never pyramid sust.
Here is what I'd recommend to a first-timer looking for a good 20lbs.

Sust: 500mgs/wk for weeks 1-8
Deca: 400mgs/wk for weeks 1-8
d-bol: 30mgs/daily for weeks 1-5


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PHREEMINDED

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posted December 02, 2000 10:50 AM

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I'll be honest, I still haven't done my first cycle, but from all the reading I've done I think that is to much. Especially for a first timer. How about:

Deca 400mg taper to 200mg
Sus250 500mg(it's self tapering)
D-Bol 30,30,25,20,15

It's just my opinion bro. I think it will be plenty

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krzysiu013

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posted December 02, 2000 01:05 PM

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why pyramid sust when it will taper itself???

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Deppnade

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posted December 02, 2000 01:33 PM

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BRO, LISTEN TO ALL THE BROS WHEN THEY SAY THAT IS WAY TO FREAKIN MUCH!!!!
I AM IN THE SAME SHOES AS YOU, WANT TO GAIN THE MOST OUT OF MY FIRST, ETC..., BUT I AM ALSO REALISTIC AND I KNOW THAT I AM NOT GONNA STOP AT JUST ONE CYCLE, ARE YOU??DOUBT IT!!!!
SUS AT 500MG A WEEK FOR 8 WEEKS, DECA AT 400 THEN DOWN TO 200, AND DBOL FOR 5 WEEKS ANYWHERE FROM 35 DOWN WILL DO IT, IF U DO THAT, EAT LIKE A PIG, AND TRAIN LIKE A MONSTER THERE ISNT ANY REASON YOU WONT GET TREMENDOUS, REMEMBER, THE FIRST IS YOUR STARTING POINT, SO IF YOU START NEAR A GRAM OF TEST YOU WILL NEED THAT AND THEN SOME TO EVEN COME CLOSE TO THE SAME GAINS AS BEFORE
JUST MY .02

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