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Rugby

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posted November 30, 2000 01:10 PM

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I was working out in my school weight room yesterday when i overheard a few of my friends saying they located a "source". I was quick to enter the conversation... They went on to say "you can gain 15lbs of muscle in a week." ha Also that a cycle was 1-2 weeks... And this is a kicker, the source was selling a vial of t-200 "the best shit in the world" for $200... Some people...I just thought that was kinda funny.


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Hacker

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posted November 30, 2000 01:22 PM

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Thats scary! What else can I say. Its probably a good thing that its illegal in the US.


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The Ghost

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posted November 30, 2000 01:38 PM

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Hacker, exactly. No wonder the government doesn't want these fools to be able to get their hands on anything. Its sad, but I know I could walk into my gym and tell somebody that I heard from one of the pros that you could inject motor oil, and gain 10 lbs, and they would do it.


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Saizen

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posted November 30, 2000 02:00 PM

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Unfortunately our country is filled with gullible, naive and moronic individuals. I.e Waco Tx and the group of people that committed suicide waiting for the mother ship California. and the list is endless. Sometimes I wonder if indeed we hold the dumbest crowd that walked the plank.


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Natymike

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posted November 30, 2000 02:02 PM

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hahaha, thats so typical. I bet they buy that shit without researching anything on it.

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latona

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posted November 30, 2000 02:28 PM

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I totally disagree. Their ignorance is not a justification of steroids illegality, it is a result of steroids being illegal! The fact that these drugs are illegal means that the dissemination of correct, factual information about them is extremely difficult. If steroids were legal, it would be much easier to get quality information from medical and scientific experts. Research could be conducted openly as on other pharmaceuticals, so we wouldn't be forced ot rely on anecdotal evidence or word of mouth. And the drug quality standards would be much higher, too.

Why mock these guys just because they don't have access to good information? I seriously doubt that any of you were immediate experts when you first started using. It's always easy to make fun of ignorance, but its always better to do something about it.


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Badkins21

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posted November 30, 2000 02:37 PM

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latona...I agree that we all do start out as newbies, but it's the guys that Rugby's talkin' about that give steroids a bad name...if you put ANY substance in your body, illegal, legal, presriciption, ANYTHYING without researching it, it's your own damn fault if you experience negative effects...not a flame, I just think you're being a little to easy on 'em...

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latona

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posted November 30, 2000 02:50 PM

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Badkins, I hear what you're saying, and of course you're right. If you're going to mess around with drugs, especially illegal ones, you should research them first. I'm not trying to defend those guys who don't make the effort to learn. My point is that we should try to help each other, not just on this board but in the gym, too. I think instead of making a joke about it, Rugby could have easily said something like "hey, guys, I don't know too much about this shit either, but that's not what I heard. You might want to check out some websites or other sources of info before you start pricking yourselves." I read about these guys who inject AS in their sphincter, or take 1cc of insulin, or die from an abcess because they didn't call a doctor, and I think, "shit, that's not funny, it's sad and we should do what we can to see that it doesn't happen to anybody. peace.


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The Ghost

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posted November 30, 2000 03:31 PM

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I don't know about that bro. I agree that we should try to help each other out, but believe me, as a whole, the general public would still make very bad decisions even with good information. There is a load of dieting drugs out there that are prescribed by doctors, who give very good and complete info, yet people still manage to kill themselves with these things. The doc will tell them not to overeat, or smoke, or do other drugs, or whatever, but these same idiots will do it anyway. The same goes for anabolic drugs to. People could have good information about them, but as a whole, the general public will take the information that they want to hear and use the drugs in whatever manner they decide is best for them. You know how it goes, if you don't know anything about drugs and an iron brother tells you to take 5 anabols per day, you know that at least half the people in that situation will take double that.


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latona

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posted November 30, 2000 03:43 PM

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So Ghost, what you're saying is since many people out there won't listen to knowledgeable advice, we should not try to spread truth and knowledge???? Sorry, that logic doesn't work for me. And, anyway, that isn't the situation here. Rugby overheard some guys talking about AS. He said he
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was quick to enter the conversation....
but he didn't say that he tried to straighten them out or direct them to good info. My point is that instead of running to put up a post about how stupid these guys are, he should have tried to help them get access to better information. There are alot of guys on this board who are quick to insult someone else for lack of knowledge. This is ridiculous. All I'm saying is be generous with you're knowledge and help people out.

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KODIAK99

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posted November 30, 2000 03:52 PM

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sad but true.


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Beezers

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posted November 30, 2000 04:05 PM

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I agree with latona here. I was in the same situation just the other day. I was talking to someone who mention they wanted to try steroids. He used terms like "roids" and "popping pills" so he can "get huge". It was appearant he knew nothing of AS or how to safely and responsibly use them. I told him these arn't your gnc supplements you're dealing with here. These are hormones that really have a potent effect on the body, both positive and negative. He was able to figure out I was a user and knew what I was talking about. I gave him a list of places to educate himself on AS, books ,and websites including this site and many other ones. He has been reading now for a couple days. He came up to me yesterday and said he didn't relize it was that complicated and thanked me for helping him get started on the right track. The image of AS is so blured and delusional to most people that they have no clue what so ever about the real world of AS. The image of steroids and users will never change if people arn't educated about them. The best place to start is by teaching.

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The Ghost

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posted November 30, 2000 04:06 PM

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LaTona, here is a direct quote from my post, "I agree that we should try to help each other out" You may want to put your glasses on the next time you read a post. Another thing you keep running your mouth about is why didn't Rugby go up to these guys and try to offer help. Uh, do you commonly up to people you don't know to divulge information about illegal drugs? If you do, then you are as stupid as you sound.


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bigrand

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posted November 30, 2000 04:25 PM

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Latona is right. If juice was legal, you could buy them with dosing directions. Why do people take 2 aspirin for headaches and not 200? Directions.


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BigPhysicsBastard

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posted November 30, 2000 04:52 PM

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Bigrand, prohormones and creatine come with dosing instructions, people still manage to take 5 times what they should and fuck themselves up doing so. Steroids should be legal for a DOCTOR to prescribe. OTC steroids would be an absolute disaster. I would give it one month before kids starting dropping from taking pro level doses of D-bol. But I think if you're 21 and over, and get checked out by your doctor and given the correct information by him, you should be able to get at least testestoterone.


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someguy

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posted November 30, 2000 05:09 PM

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hehe, People in Denmark thinks usa is wierd...

because:

1) ricky lake
2) jerry springer
3) jenny jones
hehe....Get rid of them..and you would be better of..LOL
Hope non of the people on the shows juice!!

- Someguy


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hellraisr

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posted November 30, 2000 05:12 PM

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I have to say I agree with Latona on this one. Even if steroids were legal & a doctor were to give you your shots, the doctors are still clueless about AS and it effects. So they would be giving you 200mg every 2 to 4 weeks, which we all know is hardly enough for a first time user. Who would educate our doctors on AS? Who would educate our Government on AS usage? and better yet, who would educate our insurance companies so they would be willing to help pay for our AS usage?
Just accept the fact AS will always be illegal & those that wish to use better find the correct info or suffer the wrath!

Just my 2 cents!


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santo smith

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posted November 30, 2000 05:16 PM

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yup, sad but true......those kids don't know any better...i just wish that i was the one selling the t-200


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BIBLEISONYA

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posted November 30, 2000 05:53 PM

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Latona makes very good points. Some people do not have access to the info hear about AS. The illegality of these drugs make it harder for everyone to get good knowledge of AS. I would have tried to point these fellow lifters in the right direction with any knowledge I could have given them.


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