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wilson123

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posted November 29, 2000 05:31 PM

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I have several Questions on clomid and nolvadex. I have never used either, then agian I have only taken one cycle and I didn't really know about it then.
My question is:
Does clomid help out w/ gyno or just drop your boys back to normal to help keep gains?
Does nolvadex have to be taken w/HCG?
Basically what is the difference between the two and what is better?


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FtLauderdale

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posted November 29, 2000 06:03 PM

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Lets see if I have this right---keep me straight bros: Clomid promotes natural test. production in your body (gets your nuts working again after shooting test.) whereas nolvadex is more an estrogen (female hormone) blocker. Don't take too much clomid (ie not throughout your entire cycle) or it can burn out your nads---take 1 tab every other day the last 2-3 weeks, then 1 tab daily the week after your cycle, then 1 tab eod the next week. Nolvadex is better at combatting gyno, but it also can impede some of your mass gains, maybe 5-10% or so (so if you would have gained 20 lbs, you'd only gain maybe 18 or so on Nolv.---not that big of a deal really). Use the "SEARCH" feature & read other threads---there are a ton of posts on this relateds to the chemistry of how it works, dosages, etc. Hope this helps.

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FtLauderdale

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posted November 29, 2000 06:05 PM

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BTW---you DO want to take clomid at the rear-end of your cycle, because without it it takes weeks for your natural test to return & in the time being, you can loose alot of the muscle mass you worked so hard to gain on the cycle. Most guys that I know just keep nolvadex on hand in the event of gyno symptoms---they dont usually take it otherwise.

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thesuperstar

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posted November 29, 2000 06:18 PM

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good answer. however, he should read the archives too and/or before he post.

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Painkiller

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posted November 29, 2000 06:37 PM

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Don't take too much clomid (ie not throughout your entire cycle) or it can burn out your nads---take 1 tab every other day the last 2-3 weeks, then 1 tab daily the week after your cycle, then 1 tab eod the next week.

I don't see the problem of taking clomid throughout the entire cycle(25mg ed/50mg eod or even 50ed)


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FtLauderdale

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posted November 30, 2000 10:40 AM

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Well I'm not a doc, but it just worries me a little to think you might be straining/overloading stuff down there & a number of more experienced dudes in here have posted warning against prolonged doses of this. I just wanna be on the safe side.


Plus, this shit is expensive & unless you are really prone to having problems, throwing it in on the rearend should be enough to get the job done.


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Painkiller

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posted November 30, 2000 11:50 AM

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quote:
Originally posted by FtLauderdale:
Well I'm not a doc, but it just worries me a little to think you might be straining/overloading stuff down there & a number of more experienced dudes in here have posted warning against prolonged doses of this. I just wanna be on the safe side.

That's BS. This may come from very long use and very high dosages of clomid...


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FtLauderdale

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posted December 02, 2000 11:35 AM

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Even if you are correct on the "overworking" issue & you may be (but I'd prefer to err on the side of caution when it comes to my nads), but the fact remains this stuff costs like 50 cents a pill, if you get good results from throwing it in on the rear-end, why bother taking it all the way through the cycle. For the first couple weeks on your cycle, natural test. production should still be going anyways---do you really need clomid in the first part of the cycle? If you are prone to gyno & thats the motive for taking something, youd be better off taking nolvadex throughout the cycle.


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GLP

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posted December 02, 2000 12:22 PM

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That S.O.B is packing so punch downstairs! the squril


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