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X-Man

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posted November 29, 2000 01:52 AM

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will valium react funny with ephedrine? or is it alright to take while on ECA?..


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Valdez

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posted November 29, 2000 02:45 AM

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NO! valium is a CNS depressant. Ephedrine is an amphetamine.

don't mix uppers with downers!!


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showtime2000

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posted November 29, 2000 04:09 AM

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Valdez has the right idea. if you tell your body to go up and down at the same time it may say f*ck you.


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skabiez

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posted November 29, 2000 05:25 AM

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I don't beleive there is any reason to anticipate a problem, so long as you tolerate each drug on it's own, that are compatible.


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Your_Moms_Kneepads

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posted November 29, 2000 10:10 AM

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Valdez, Ephedrine is NOT an AMPHETAMINE. Its a beta agonist, sympathomomimetic drug. Distant stretch of a relation to amphetamines-quite far

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skabiez

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posted November 29, 2000 10:18 AM

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Ephedrine is chemically close to the amphetamines, and is used in clandestine amphetamine manufacture, but it is not an amphetamine itself.

Is the Valium good to get you to sleep while on a cycle? I have bad insomnia and I know a strong anabolic would likely intensify this...

Also benadryl or stronger antihistamines i.e. atarax/vistaril have no effect on me.


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Dr.Atlas

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posted November 29, 2000 05:03 PM

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Skabiez, valium and other benzodiazepines have a strong rep for causing sleep without feeling rested. If you need to sleep, try eating some turkey with your last two meals (no joke, it works on Thanksgiving). I'd say GHB before valium. All this gov't bullshit about GHB is just that, bullshit. "Easily slipped into a drink without being noticed" my ass, the stuff tastes foul, sodium-GHB anyway, never tried potassium-GHB. Valium is very addictive, as at least one brother here can attest to. Peace!

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Badkins21

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posted November 29, 2000 05:12 PM

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Try some melatonin, kava kava, valerian root, zma, etc.--valium should be a LAST RESORT!

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Fatimo

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posted November 29, 2000 05:22 PM

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Lemme say I have tried everything for sleep, nubain, valerian root, Melatonin, valium, percocet, vicodin, darvocet, soma, bupermorphine, and I would have to say either bain or valiums are the best for me. I pop 2 of the 10mg v's and I feel fuckn' great. I guess the shit can be addictive, but you feel like ass the next day, so I only use it occassioanl. A more addictive drug would be the nubain. but man, is it a fuckn good hi!!! Anyway,

I use to use the bain ONLY to fall asleep after a workout. Cause I would use an ECA stack before my workout, and I workout at night, so I would be hyper. The bain (or valium) would neutralize it and allow me to have better sleep.

All I could say is try it, everyone's body is different, you might feel so lethargic the next day you'll never take a valium again.

But if you can get away with melatonin or valerian root, stick to that, cause it's healthier and cheaper.

And the turkey thing might work too. or milk before bed. The reason being the increased amount of triptophan (sorry for the spelling) but that might work too. Just that it's mild and I needed more.

You also might want to try ambien. I have yet to try that one, but I have read its more mild than valium.

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hammercurl

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posted November 29, 2000 05:22 PM

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I tried some valium today, and it took the edge off real good. Don't feel like shit when you come down either. Much better than percs or vikes.


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gamer

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posted November 29, 2000 06:01 PM

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Dr. I make both types of GHB myself (I have a Chemist girlfreind who takes care of these things for me...) and the potassium tastes even worse than the sodium. VERY BITTER! I'm with you if that is in my drink I can definitely taste it. If your drunk I don't know because I never mixit with alcohol after a close freind had problems for being an idiot!


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8UP

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posted November 29, 2000 06:11 PM

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I AM BEING COOL WITH THIS THREAD X....

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[This message has been edited by 8UP (edited November 29, 2000).]


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Dr.Atlas

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posted November 29, 2000 06:17 PM

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Darn, I had always hoped they would find a tastier way to make it. Some book said the k+GHB had a licorice flavor, of course the same book said na+GHB was "slightly salty". A friend of mine used to make powder in methanol and cap the stuff (gotta keep it dry though, that shit soaks up water from the air like crazy). It worked fine but it's harder to dose it. Peace!

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