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ajc

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posted November 28, 2000 04:20 PM

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He has never claimed to be a good public speaker, a rocket scientist, or even a good entertainer...He is however, the best bodybuilder out there. That's all he claims.

You guy's say he's stupid, but remember, he's not stupid enough to get on national TV and say "Yeah Jay, I seem to really react well to a good Insulin/GH stack along with a couple of grams of test per week."

To all you jealous mofos:
Get the fuck over it. He's as close to flawless as pro bodybuilder's get.

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bbigman2000

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posted November 28, 2000 04:24 PM

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Ronnie is the man, he is awesome, give the guy a break
he is at the fore front of our sport, and he is helping to
keep it alive, Give him a break.

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hayesjones

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posted November 28, 2000 04:43 PM

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yeah but he has bitch tits!

just busting your balls ajc!
lol


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ajc

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posted November 28, 2000 04:49 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by hayesjones:
yeah but he has bitch tits!

just busting your balls ajc!
lol



I got your bitch tits right here you smart ass! LOL


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ajc

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posted November 28, 2000 04:51 PM

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You know half of the guys who talk shit on him would be kissing his big huge striated black ass if they met him.


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posted November 28, 2000 04:51 PM

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he's a big bad mofo


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hayesjones

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posted November 28, 2000 04:51 PM

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ajc,
dude help me out and answer the post I just placed on progesterone if you got any info on it.
thanks


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i second that. He's the man. I couldn't believe what I saw last night and at Mr. Olympia. He is by no doubt the most muscular man on the planet. You've gotta give him that.
Hell, if I was thrown onto the Jay Leno show, I would be stuttering and all kinds of crap... he did pretty damn good.


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I agree totally. How often do you think he speaks in front of a national audience. How would you critics think you would perform in the same situation? Professional BB's are not in the spotlight and do not get to do the amount of live interviews that Fball, Bball, and Basketball players do.How can you expect him to talk like a goddamm politician?
The only way Bodybuilding will ever get respect is if the population could ever get their head out of ass and realize that their Football, Baseball, and Olympic heroes rely on Anabolic steroids just as Bodybuilders do.(Although not to the same degree). People refuse to accept the Truth..

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posted November 28, 2000 05:09 PM

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I have seen folks who call birds on Leno.Whats your point? I appreciate your view but we take so many steps backwards when a person who is the "king" of our sport goes on national television and acts dumb. do we have a better representitives out there? i think so. jealous of what? him being 315 pounds? I have restaurants in two countries, 25 in the states, and can have an actual conversation with folks about business and bodybuilding. I also compete. Do I want to look or be like him? No way. respect your opinion but don't agree with it.


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I am a big Ronnie fan as well give him a break.


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Twisted91

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posted November 28, 2000 05:21 PM

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He was a bit punchy but like Ajc says, Ronnie does'nt claim to some genius. As for bitch tits. They might be a bit puffy but i quess some guys have never seen a bad case of gyno.He might be taking an exaggerated amount of juice but it takes balls to reach the piont that Ronnie has.


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BigPhysicsBastard

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I don't think anyone's disrespecting what Ronnie's done in the sport, but I've heard more eloquence from world's strongest man competitors minutes after taking a stroll with a 300 pound stone on their chest. It just would have been nicer if he were a tad more intelligible. I know he shouldn't have come right out and said he juiced, but Leno didn't directly ask him if he juiced, so why would he bring the subject up by making an obviously ludicrous statement like "I didn't want to compete because I didn't want to take steroids". He should have completely stayed away from that subject. And what was with those marks on his face? It looked like Tyson used his face like a speedbag!!! I wonder if he really did get into a fight, in which case it didn't look like he faired all that well.


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posted November 28, 2000 05:55 PM

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I just got done watching the interview as the armed forces network shows leno a day late. That post earlier (coleman duh) made him sound incoherrent. He just has a country accent, as people from the country do. I did notice that "black eye or whatever it was. I could'nt believe he's so damn big. But .33% bf, what was that all about?? He's not stupid so why would he insult the publics intelligence like that???


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posted November 28, 2000 06:21 PM

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Word.


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posted November 28, 2000 06:48 PM

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I lost the show.damm

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CN1

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posted November 28, 2000 08:29 PM

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coleman is the best, he could maybe tie arnolds record!!!!!


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TEXASAMM

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posted November 28, 2000 08:42 PM

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No one will ever beat Ronnie Coleman.No one that we have seen.


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roidog420

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Hey alc. Im about as jealous of Ron Coleman as I am of an Ebola Virus victim. I mean he's probably in the same state of health as they are right? Bodybuilding is SUPPOSED to be about health. These 300lbs idiots who promote themselves as healthy are doing nothing less than playing you and all the other little followers out there as F O O L S! Im so jealous of the guy why? Because he couldnt get a piece of ass if he posed as a public toilet seat?? Why? Because the fucker is about as dumb and ugly as some of the characters in Deliverence? Face it man, hes only the best bodybuilder because he gives Joe Weider the best head!! Every other guy in the top 10 looks just like him....like a freak & a joke! If I saw him on the street I would laugh, just like all the girls do I'm sure, but for different reasons. Because the guy is a hypocrite.


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CN1

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man your dissin hard, I dont think you would say shit to coleman if you saw him on the street, my friend saw him in the gym and said the dude is no joke, the real deal, man coleman is the best and if you dont like him then you are HATIN!!!!!he is bigger and better than anyone in BB right now!!!!


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posted November 28, 2000 08:57 PM

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You hit it roiddog. Perfect bulls eye!! If arnold was in his prime right now he could kick colemans ass badly!!


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posted November 28, 2000 09:00 PM

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I like the guy. I think he did great on leno last night. He might not be the best spokesperson, but he's a heck of a BB.


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CN1

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you cant say that, the guy is helluva good, man why dont you guys like him, just because he is the best, look ronnie coleman is the michael jordan of bodybuilding, man go get that new musclemag, I dont know which one it is, but you will clearly see that coleman puts a hurt on the other bodybuilders.


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Ronnie is so fucking huge it's unreal. Maybe his overall symmetry and certain bodyparts arn't the most pleasing, but he's Mr. Olympia so what the hell.


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CN1

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man these guys are the biggest playa haters I have ever ran into, its sad that they cant admit he is the best and biggest and could be the best ever, what if he ties or beats lee haneys record, will you guys still be talkin the same shit 7 years later?


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I think this give Ronnie a break is bullshit. If he wants the heightened exposure than he had better learn to live with the adversity of those who choose to raise the bar as far as far as expectations from Mr. Olympia are concerned.

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Hey, I guess some guys never grow up. Ronnie is not dumb ROID DOG. Have you seen his acedemic's? I guess a Degree means he's dumb?


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he is a monster plain and simple that is why he wins not because he can speak properly.


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CN1 & Kool-aid. Obviously, you two guys need a hero to worship & someone to live vicariously through. Its SAD SAD SAD to think that you worship someone who, if he met you in real life, would probably hate you & not give you the time of day. My whole point is that the guy(and all the other freaks in the heavyweight division)are promoting HEALTH!!!! Christ can you two quit jerking off to your poster of Ronnie long enough to see that??! I myself find it an insult that they think that I am DUMB enough to believe that bullshit(that they are the epitome of health). And they(bodybuilders) DO think your that dumb, believe me! They are the only idiots in sport that are constantly BRINGING UP & then denying steroid use. Let me ask you two...Why dont you hear any football players or wrestlers or even hockey players bringing up the topic of steroid use & then denying it??? The reason is simple...they give the general public credit for having HALF A FUCKING BRAIN!!! They know people are NOT that stupid & thus avoid the topic totally. That idiot Coleman actually brought the topic up last night on Leno!!!! HE THINKS YOU ARE A BIG STUPID FUCKING MORON & YOU WORSHIP THE MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! The guy is a joke & a hypocrite!!!!! Think about it


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CN1 & Kool-aid. Obviously, you two guys need a hero to worship & someone to live vicariously through. Its SAD SAD SAD to think that you worship someone who, if he met you in real life, would probably hate you & not give you the time of day. My whole point is that the guy(and all the other freaks in the heavyweight division)are promoting HEALTH!!!! Christ can you two quit jerking off to your poster of Ronnie long enough to see that??! I myself find it an insult that they think that I am DUMB enough to believe that bullshit(that they are the epitome of health). And they(bodybuilders) DO think your that dumb, believe me! They are the only idiots in sport that are constantly BRINGING UP & then denying steroid use. Let me ask you two...Why dont you hear any football players or wrestlers or even hockey players bringing up the topic of steroid use & then denying it??? The reason is simple...they give the general public credit for having HALF A FUCKING BRAIN!!! They know people are NOT that stupid & thus avoid the topic totally. That idiot Coleman actually brought the topic up last night on Leno!!!! HE THINKS YOU ARE A BIG STUPID FUCKING MORON & YOU WORSHIP THE MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! The guy is a joke & a hypocrite!!!!! Think about it


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roidog, i dont see why it's wrong to look up to someone as inspiration. i'm sure you dont live in a vacuum and decided on your own that you wanna get big. without goals you get nowhere, and to some people Ronnie represents that goal.

do i ever wanna be as huge as Ronnie? hell fucking no. and i doubt anyone on here would want to be that big either. do i still respect the guy? hell yeah! i dont wanna become a surgeon either and get my hands in blood, but i still respect them. same thing!
there will always be extreme people in ANY sport/scene/whatever. please point out to me where he's ever claimed to be the epitome of health. he just claims one thing : that he's the biggest mofo on the planet. period.

so butch up and stop bad mouthing the guy.


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[QUOTE]Originally posted by freshr1:
[B]roidog, i dont see why it's wrong to look up to someone as inspiration. i'm sure you dont live in a vacuum and decided on your own that you wanna get big. without goals you get nowhere, and to some people Ronnie represents that goal.


What goal is that? To DIE??? Actually pal I DID decide to lift on my own. It had nothing to do with worshipping anyone or wanting to be like anyone other than me!! I did it for myself & that is why I have been doing it for 15 years STEADY now!! For ME buddy! Not to emulate some illiterate phoney!! Maybe you need a hero, but I dont. I do however, respect the old school bodybuilders who WERE about fitness. Guys like Zane, Arnold, & Mentzer. These guys even took "off" time! Wonder when Ron last did that?


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yeah ronnie is pretty big but im bigger...
yeah riiiiiiiggggggggghhhhhht!!LOL

as for ronnie being capable of taking over arnolds throne, HELL NO!!!! Roniie is a freak sure enough but arnold was and is THE MAN!!! Sure ronnie obviously has freaky mass and never claimed to be a rocket scientist BUT trying to play off that he gets down to .33% bf?!? thats just downright retarded.

as for meeting ronnie on the street, sure id talk shit i would just outrun his unhealthy ass in like a block or so

keepin it real bro's
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"Even the Devil will site scripture for his purpose"

Funny that a guy who calls himself "roiddog" will claim that bodybuilding is about health!

I don't think it really mattered if Coleman went on Leno and started quoting Hume or Spinoza people aren't going to like him. Thats just the nature of being a public figure. So why try to use logic to convince someone either way. No logic is being used.


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I totally agree with you roiddog. Ronnie will be dead very soon, all of the pros today look like shit except a few (IE) Darrem Charles, Shawn Ray ect.

BB's Like Arnold, Sergio, and Zane. were flawless perfection. Coleman is not even close to flawless. BTW when is Ronnie due? Looks like its been almost 9� months.

And to the idiots that think just because he is big makes him a bad mo fo give me a fucking break. Put 190lb Frank Shamrock against him and Coleman will get knocked the fuck out!

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He is too big for my taste....

I like lean and hard. Not big and bold.

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I bet that the black eye is probably acromegaly from all the GH he uses.
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Whats wrong with you guys? Coleman is the best bodybuilder out there right now. If you think Yates or Arnold in their Primes are even close, you are stupid. I guess they just give him Mr.O because they like his posing. Even if you do not respect the man, give him his props for his acomplishments in bodybuilding. All you people who say you would say this and that, you wouldn't say shit, because most of you are 5'5" and about 140lbs, and you would be so scared, you would piss yourself. If you don't like Mr.O , stick with the natural bodybuilders. Don't talk shit about people who have dedicated their life to their sport. As far as you guys talking about him not being a good cop, or talking about cops run your mouth to one and watch what happens!

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quote:
Originally posted by Bignick12345:
I bet that the black eye is probably acromegaly from all the GH he uses.
Nick

maybe ronnie did a last minute preparation before the leno show and tried to dwarf Jay's jaw, slamming down 2 boxes of GH


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I personally think if you are going to downgrade BB and BB using juice you probably shouldnt be on this site!!!!


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ROIDDOG----
Give me a break man. Bodybuilding has absolutely nothing to do with health. It has to do with physiques. That is why shows are based on physiques and not judged by liver enzymes and blood pressure. Some of the posts by people on this subject absolutely amaze me. Arnold would beat Ronnie huh? Jesus Christ, you have to be kidding me. Arnold couldnt win most local shows of today, even in his prime! He had no legs and looked like a little girl compared to the pros of today. And talk about hypocritical, you are bitching about him not being in it for health, your damn screen name is ROIDDOG! He, and other pros, just take it to a different level. They have the guts to push their bodies to the extreme, with any means they can. That, in and of itself, is commendable.

Maybe you guys should start a new type of mens shows.....
You can get out their with the fitness chicks and do jumping jacks in a leotard to show how HEALTHY you are.
And final judging can be based upon:
EATING THE BASIC FOOD GROUPS
BLOOD PRESSURE
AND A FULL PHYSICAL TO SEE WHO IS THE HEALTHIEST.

GIVE ME A BREAK


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BY THE WAY GUYS I HAVE A NAME FOR THE NEW BODYBUILDING HEALTH FEDERATION:

FAGS

FITNESS
AND
GOOD HEALTH
SHOWS

I THINK ROIDDOG AND WINSTROL69 CAN BE THE SPOKESMEN.. (OR SPOKESWOMEN)


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Ummmmm, NABBA already have a men's fitness category, and YES, they jump around in leotards, then do a cat walk, and finish off with a 60 second speech while dressed up in their best 'casual dressy' attire. Don't think they've introduced the liver enzyme tests YET. NABBA also now have a very popular 'Athletic' category for men. These guys are buff with nice, more natural looking muscles and great symmetry. Arnold would have done well in this new class!


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look roiddog and winstrol, its not about sucking ass or worshiping ronnie coleman, I like him because he is the best, just the same reasons i like michael jordan, deion sanders, kobe bryant, shaquille oneal, emmit smith, and so on, because they are the best, Im not the kind of person that likes say a franco salvotori, or ummm a sorry ass pro bb, look I like the best because the best epitomize potential, style, strength, and existence at what they do, and ronnie coleman just happens to be the best, and I like the top of the line......the best, so you can shove your stupid player hatin quotes up your dumb wannabee asses, until you can see through the smokescreen.


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CN and Texas. First of all Arnold as no record since he won the Olympia 7 times and Lee Haney 8 times (correct me if i am wrong). And no once again Ronnie should not have won this year and in my personal opinion he will never win again. He is going downhill, was already in his last big O going downhill. So ronnie winning 7 or 8 Olympias ? He will not live long enough to do so. Sorry AJC, i know you mean well, but so do i. This doesn't mean i disrespect Ronnie, but can we be honest ????

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Muscular Ectomorph

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posted November 29, 2000 03:41 PM

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Out of the mouths of IFBB judges "Ronnie Coleman will not lose the Olympia UNLESS he competes in his worst condition EVER". This year proved it. He wasn't as tight as last year BUT the judges awarded him ALL FIRST PLACE VOTES. That's hard to accomplish!!! Unless you're a IFBB judge how can anybody place bets on him NOT winning 7 or 8 times???


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posted November 29, 2000 03:50 PM

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well I can. NO WAY will he ever win the big O 7, 8 or even 6 times. Get real, the guy is just NOT healthy. Furthermore since he is not really a smart guy (no offence on that, but..) but what i try to say is, there are probably guys making money out of him. So those guys can and will tell him "you need to do this, take that, do so. That's easy to say since it is not your own body that gets abused. So no i don't think he will win the next Olympia.

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posted November 29, 2000 03:59 PM

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I still want to know what those bruises were from. . .

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GETCUT

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posted November 29, 2000 04:29 PM

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this ronnie coleman shit is getting old...
let it go already.

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posted November 29, 2000 04:43 PM

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You guys who stick up for this dipshit Coleman make me sick! OOOOOOOO Dont you talk bad about my Ronnie....he's my hero(sniff sniff)SHHAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTUUUUPPPPP!!! It shows how STU-STU-STU-STU-STUPID you brain-dead farts are by comparing this guy to Michael Jordan. Michael is respected and is(was)the best at his game because of SKILLS YOU DUMB FOLLOWERS!! Not because he gave the best toungue-bath to the owner of the company or because he could afford the most hormones(Coleman). And BTW, ARE YOU IDIOTS GONNA SIT THERE AND TELL ME THAT THESE GUYS ARE NOT PROMOTING THEMSELVES AS HEALTHY????? Then why the FUCK, I ask you, are they seen advertising for shit like Met-Rx & not for Organon????? Because they think that some people out there are dumb enough to believe that those products are the reason they look why they do. Dont you find that insulting in the LEAST?!?!? I guess if you have 0 intellect in the first place, there isn't a reason to get insulted eh you mooks???!!!!!!


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posted November 29, 2000 05:18 PM

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ROIDDOG--

You might be the dumbest bastard i have ever encountered on this board. You think it doesnt take skill or discipline to get where he is at? You dont get to that level by just shooting shit in your body. It takes unbelievable skill and especially discipline. I dont really even care for Coleman but shit, give the guy some props, he is big as a house. If bodybuilding was about health, this board wouldnt even exist! And as far as why he promotes for MET_RX etc, its because he makes his money that way! It is called CAPITALISM. People like you make me want to puke, you think people just shoot hormones and get huge. That isnt how it works guy. He has busted his ass for years to look like that, put his health on line... just to push the bar..

He is Mr. Olympia who the hell are you?


I might have small balls but your girl doesnt complain when they are bouncing off her chin..

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posted November 29, 2000 06:05 PM

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I saw him at Milos's Powerhouse right before the Mr. O in So Cal with Shawn Ray, and Dennis James. That mo fo is one big boy. He is legit through and through. Damn his arms looked like horse legs, no joke!


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FtLauderdale

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posted November 29, 2000 06:14 PM

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I agree with the "cut him a break" line. Any of us would have been nervous as hell going on national tv & not being used to it. And how many of us (especially when our jobs would be threatened) would go on national TV & confess to using gear? From everything I've ever heard/read about him, he seems like a pretty decent, good-natured guy, so why tear him a new one?


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posted November 29, 2000 06:16 PM

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And BTW, one of my friends, who is currently a title-holder from a Caribbean country worked out with RC & he said he was cool as hell---very gracious and humble.


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BigPhysicsBastard

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posted November 29, 2000 06:36 PM

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If I'm not mistaken, I think he brought the subject of gear up himself, total bonehead move. Did you hear the people snickering off camera when he said "I didn't want to compete because I didn't want to take steroids"? I like the guy and have heard nothing but good things about him, but damn he really didn't make a good impression on Leno. I really do feel sorry for those guys though. As much as I respect the absolute and total commitment, which I could never even hope to achieve, that these guys put into what they do. They are totally destroying their health. All of you should read the latest Flex for the article with Sarcev, and how he was 30 minutes from death from a synthol injection that went straight into a vein. That was why he didn't compete at this years olympia. Stuff like this is going to get more prevelant as these dudes try to find every cheat possible to get one more cm on their arms. The human body could withstand the gear usage of some of the oldtimers like Haney, Arnold and some of the others. But these guys today are taking upwards of 90 grand a year in juice!!!! Somethings going to give real soon.


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