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bbigman2000

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posted November 28, 2000 03:42 PM

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Bro's,
After fininshing a course of Dbol,test propionate and primo,
I suffered severe suppression of the immune system, I have
done my own research and find that the Test prop I was on
is particularly bad for immuno suppression, This was Virormone,
it is a british propionate and you guys my not be familiar with it,
I peaked with 700mg/wk for 2 weeks, during the stack in question.
After it was done I went natural for 5 months or so, and suffered
for it, I caught every cold and flu going.
My question is, Have any of you guy's had the same trouble,
and if so how have you dealt with it ??
Many thanks.
bbigman2000

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bbigman2000

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posted November 28, 2000 03:46 PM

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bbigman2000:
[B]Bro's,
After fininshing a course of Dbol,test propionate and primo,
I suffered severe suppression of the immune system, I have
done my own research and find that the Test prop I was on
is particularly bad for immuno suppression, This was Virormone,
it is a british propionate and you guys my not be familiar with it,
I peaked with 700mg/wk for 2 weeks, during the stack in question.
After it was done I went natural for 5 months or so, and suffered
for it, I caught every cold and flu going.
My question is, Have any of you guy's had the same trouble,
and if so how have you dealt with it ??
Many thanks.
bbigman2000
[KNOWLEDGE IS POWER]

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bstrong

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posted November 28, 2000 03:53 PM

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high doses of test are known to suppress the immune sys).


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andre

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posted November 28, 2000 03:56 PM

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i dont know about the test, but primo strengthen the immune system. they use them on aids patients..


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bb4424

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posted November 28, 2000 04:39 PM

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My only test experience was a few weeks on sus250...i caught a flu or something and just quit without clomid or hcg. I was only doing 500 a week...after I came down I actually got "shingles". a disease that is usually caught by aids patients and old dying people...i tested for HIV, no problems..the doc lectured that AS will cause this and he thought it looked like I was on them...

So, test can really suppress the immune system and it totally depends on the person..be careful and smart when using...

i have done a few cycles with primo, deca and/or anavar..no problems at all...


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oubeta

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posted November 28, 2000 04:53 PM

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jump on the fag I mean aids board and you will find stuff about that


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Unity66

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posted November 28, 2000 07:39 PM

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oubeta...you only show your ignorance through your homophobic use of the term 'fag'...

fucking automoton!

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winstrol69

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posted November 28, 2000 07:42 PM

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FAG?!?! LOL I learned what that really meant back in 6th or 7th grade. Hit the nailhead Unity.


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Frackal

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posted November 28, 2000 07:43 PM

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Outbeta, just because you contracted AIDS from anal sex does not mean that is how everyone gets it you fucking dipshit.


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Badkins21

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posted November 28, 2000 07:59 PM

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bbigman2000, you could up your antioxidant intake (vitamins C, E, Selenium, beta carotene), etc., and maybe try some herbal remedies like echinacea...they're all inexpensive and can't hurt...Vitamin World is my store of choice for those kinds of products...

oubeta...guess we won't be seein' you around after the mods see that stupid-ass, 12 year old post up there and kick your little ass off...leave your bullsh*t ignorance/arrogance at the door when you come on this board...

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Burnboy

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posted November 28, 2000 08:02 PM

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ha ha oubetta you loser, rot in hell and happy holidays

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andre

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posted November 28, 2000 09:12 PM

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quebeto is a closet case plus he is in denial..thats why he is so ignorant...


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skabiez

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posted November 28, 2000 09:23 PM

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Even low doses of any steroid, anabolic or otherwise, severely suppresses the immune system. This is why steroids are used to treat autoimmune disorders such as asthma, psoriasis, etc.

A few areas of immunity are actually enhanced but for the most part your entire immune system is suppressed, and you are at risk for more frequent, worse, and harder-to-kick infections with steroid use.

If you get an infection, you need to stop using, get on antibiotics and take care of it.

My buddy came to be constantly for antiboitics, he got gonorrhea and kept taking testosterona... and he couldn't get rid of the STD even with antibiotics.

Don't fuck with your health!


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LivinLarger

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posted November 28, 2000 10:29 PM

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I have heard that Deca is good for your immune system.


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Busy_Mind

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posted November 28, 2000 10:41 PM

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oubeta, you done fucked up biatch! Take your crooked shit to a psychiatrist.


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jersey boy

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posted November 29, 2000 12:13 AM

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Initially I get the cold like symptoms when starting something new. If I get past that without getting sick then my immune system is strong as hell and I don't get anything.

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cockdezl

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posted November 29, 2000 01:19 AM

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Some studies have shown that some steroids reduce some parameters of immunity, while others show no effects. One study showed that immunity was suppressed in resistance trained animals, while no suppression was seen with endurance trained animals. This may be the major factor, since it is well known that vigorous exercise suppresses immunity. Three known immunostimulatory steroids are DHEA, 5-androstenediol and androstenetriol.

With any cycle and heavy training routine, glutamine along with DHEA or 5-Adiol, would be useful, to offset any immunosuppression.


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bbigman2000

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posted November 29, 2000 04:41 AM

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Guys,
Many thanks for the input, that helps a lot, you really
are a knowledgble bunch. Thank you.

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strengthmonster

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posted November 29, 2000 10:05 AM

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I know Viromone. As most tests and other AS from what I heard is your immune system is stronger when on but then drops when you come off and your test levels are low. The only gear I heard of giving people flu symptoms is sus. I have always suffered badly from colds and when I came off I would allways get ill. What I found to cure me or at least help in most cases was taking a strong multivit and 5g of vitC everyday with a lot of water. It really has made a difference as I don't get colds anywhwere near as much now.


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