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 YeAr RoUnD GEAR......Do all the bros do it
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 144 |
do you guys use year round /?? no breaks, except bridge.. if you call that a break.. and if so dont the recptors stop useing the gear    | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 88 |
i dont and even if i could afford i wouldnt. Ya gotta let the sites clear.  | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1021 |
stayed on for almnost a year and a half. after my show my body fell to crap and i felt like shit. granted i looked great but rational thoughts and sex where out of the question. the question becomes why? I did it because I was caught up in competing. will NEVER make that mistake again | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 542 |
I have made the decision to stay on year round and so have many bros on this board. The receptor downgrade theory is bullshit. If you get regular check-ups by your doc and you know what you are doing aas wise then it is perfectly safe. Most people I know that stay on year round use androgens for a couple of months then anabolics for a couple of months and then back to androgens. Some people just do a low dose of test or test and deca year round. You can do whatever works for you. Year round use doesn't mean 1000mg test a week 52 weeks a year or 6 months of drol or anything like that. It all depends on your genetics and your goals. If you like to take 2 steps forward and one step back then cycle roids. If you just want to look like one of Bill Phillips bitches then one or two cycles a year should be more than enough. All of the talk about damaging your hpta is crap as well. My doc has me on permenantly and said that a month of HCG will get my balls back working if I ever decide to have kids. If you want to cycle then that is a great choice but don't talk shit about staying on when you haven't even researched it enough to make an intellegent decision on your own. Later, PS - Flexed1 this isn't directed at you bro, we posted at the same time. ------------------ [This message has been edited by giantset (edited November 28, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1021 |
giant makes a good point. i took way to much even though my doses were not incredibly high i was on at the minimum 4 things | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
anyone else please | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 194 |
I agree with Giant. I have been on for over a year and continue to make gains. I go from very heavy to very light use but I am always on. Sexual impulses deinately suside but they will return. Only way I ever went over the 290lbs mark..prioritize | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 337 |
I always take a rest in between and do a liver de-tox. Bros you may feel fine but if you do get damage it is unseen. It's a gamble we take so I try to minimise the risk even though I wanna be huge just like evreyone else here. I am a believer in receptor downgrade. Not enough bros get liver function tests done either. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 146 |
Giantset is 100% correct.A post a week or two ago (i think it was from Monstrosity,i could be wrong) was about a highly regarded strength/athlete coach.I think his name is Louis Simmons(again,i could be wrong on the name,damned memory),Anyway,this guy's been on for a straight 28yrs & he is very fit & healthy.If your goal is to be huge,then that's the route to take.Look at it long term(not like 95% of bros who cycle for 8 to 12wks), They have to come off after a cycle because of the dosage sizes.Keep the dosages at a reasonably low level,mix & match the androgenics/anabolics & think marathon rather than sprint. | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 3 |
The biggest risks I can see from year round steriod use is cardiovascular disease, hypertension, and an enlarged heart. If your lipid profile changes when you're juicing (increased LDL, decreased HDL) and/or your pressure is elevated, then your arteries ARE slowly getting damaged. Since your heart is a muscle too, it can hypertrophy which would be a risk factor for arrythmias and shortness of breath (like Coleman last night). These are 'unseen' side effects that might not show up till you get a heart attack at age 47. Fortunately, these side effects are transient and your body returns to normal once you're off. There is no way to tell what state your coronary arteries are in unless you get an angiography test (not cheap). Now certainly, some people's lipid profile/ blood pressure will change more than others, it would just be a good idea to know what catagory you fall into.
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
so whats the verdict on the receptors it seems like they do stop working as well after a while .... i tend to stop gaing after 8 weeks or so | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
Bump....bumpbump | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 646 |
I think the receptor downgrade theory is bull shit. I am naturally hypogonadic. I have to take test replacement for the rest of my life and this is one thing my doctor and I covered. I wondered if over time I was going to need higher and higher doses to benifit from the treatment. Basically would the receptors get used to the test. He told me this was not a problem at all. Receptors don't downgrade. They have a job to do...let androgens bind to them. As long as there are androgens to occupy the receptors the receptors will do thier job. These receptors have been active our whole lives...especially active since the teen years. So if they were going to get used to androgens always attaching to them it would have happened already. As long as there are androgens to fill the androgen receptors the body will do its thing. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 324 |
OK then why do so many brothers say that once they have taken high dosages they do not respond to lower dosages any longer? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 646 |
A certain amount of a certain drug can only do so much. You can only fill the gas take so much and it will only get you so far. Its almost like the body must catch up to the dose you give it. Once your body catches up to the dose it will stop growth. The body will only allow itself to get so big. That dosn't mean the androgenic properties of the drug have ceased...the anabolic properties may have. Once your body catches up to the dose it will remain that size. I almost think of it like programing the body. 500mg is a certain program that will make the body run in a certain way. Once that program is fully installed it will maintain the programed function. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
any GURU's wanna elaberate | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 213 |
i am with Giant, all year round! | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 789 |
Year round...yeah!!! Just change from anabolic to androgenic from time to time. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
thanks for the input | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 504 |
Beezers makes a hell of a lot of sense. You did enlighten me brother! Not that I'm going to use nonstop, but something to think about. ghans | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 627 |
Last year I did 2 heavy cycles and bridged inbetween with low doses of EQ. I have been on this year since July. Since October Ive gone to low doses of test(200mg/week) and EQ(150mg/week). The last 2 weeks I switched the EQ for Fina and gains began again. I am now a solid 205lbs and cut like when I was 187 at 5'7" 2 years ago. Yeah, only 18lbs but my bf is 8% and I could be ready for comp in a month, unfortunately it will be a while till May at the Caveman Classic in Stanton, Mo. in Merimac Caverns. My point? stay on if you want to maintain the steady gains and approach a look like the pro's. If transitory, temporay gains are your priority, then cycle and go completely off for long periods. I did for 3 years and still trained, but my look returned to ordinary. Slowly and surely. A lot of us arent still between the ages of 16 and 25, so hormonal supplimentation is the only way. Its all a matter of what you want. You want the fastest car? It wont be on Conoco gas. These are just my experiences. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 324 |
Thanks Beezers it makes sense to me. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 77 |
Isn't a month of HCG too much?? I have read that too much HCG will ovberload the system and convert to estrogen. Is this true?? | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 262 |
Ill be on for the next two years until my next contest. I cycle the drugs that are hard on the liver - 6 weeks on/10weeks off. Test is cycled 12 weeks at 1000mg+ then four weeks off. Primo for the four weeks off. All other drugs are cycled within the 12 week windows Im using test. The more gear you take and the longer you stay on - the better you look. Have your doc do a complete blood screen at least 4 times every year. If something is going wrong - you will know. | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1748 |
My longest cycle was 16 weeks. I usually average 12 week cycles. This last month or so I've been doing some serious reading about how and how not to stay on year round. Right now I'm 95% sure this current cycle will be bridged with the next. I will miss the "off cycle drinking party weekend", but hell, getting to old for that shit anyways ------------------ Lobo | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1187 |
my longest cycle was 1 year went from 185 to around 269 no i am at about 260 and am going to make another long run starting in Jan. gotta break that 300 at sometime in my life ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 34 |
Can the rookies get a taste of what one of the year round cycles looks like? I hope one of the gurus or mods can help. I am very interested. I am on this site 24 7 just reading and post when I have a rare question that was never answered/asked befoe. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
lets hear it from the BIG GUYS ,GURUs n MODs | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 358 |
Just a question to those that stay on year round. How much on average/month do you spend on gear? The only thing that is stopping me from longer cycles is the cost of gear and the cost of all those extra calories. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 144 |
bump | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 126 |
75 f**cking pounds in a year Conan, holy sh*t is that alot of weight. How did your joints feel during the gains? How long have you been at 260lbs and off gear? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 542 |
Hey Beezers, what were your test levels and what is your age. I think I hold the record at around 94ng/dL @ 22 years old. When life deals you a shitty hand it just means you have to work harder than the next guy. giantset ------------------ |
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posted November 28, 2000 12:34 AM