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 gain 35lbs
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 11 |
which will help me gain about 35lbs? and keep most of the gians? Which do you think is better the first cycle or the second cycle? it will be my first cycle. I am 20 years old 160lbs. training for 3 years. what will i gain? cycle#1 w1 750mg sust 200mg deca 35mg dbol w2 750mg sust 300mg deca 35mg dbol w3 750mg sust 400mg deca 35 w4 500mg sust 400mg deca 35 w5 500mg sust 300mg deca 35 w6 500mg sust 200mg deca 300primo w7 250mg sust 400primo w8 400primo w9 100mg clomid 400primo w10 50mg clomid cycle#2 w1 500mg sust 35mg dbol w2 500mg sust 35mg dbol w3 500mg sust 35mg dbol w4 500mg sust 35mg dbol w5 500mg sust 35mg dbol w6 500mg sust 400mg primo w7 500mg sust 400mg primo w8 500mg sust 400mg primo w9 400mg primo w10 400mg primo w11 300mg primo w12 200mg primoTake clomid 50mgs EOD throughout entire cycle, and then ED two weeks after last test shot for 3 weeks.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 76 |
That is a shit load of gear for a novice with gear, I would suggest you start on something that does not include testosterone at all. Cycle no1 is what I would go with, that should give you awesome gains, aslong as you complete the full picture with nutrition/sleep/training. I doubt if you will gain 35lb's, maybe more like half of that, and maybe then you will maintain 10lbs, if you are lucky and go on to do more juice. If you are 160lbs now, what weight were you when you started natural training 3 years ago ?? Good luck bro. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 59 |
Bro 35lbs is alot of weight to gain, the most I've heard of is maybe 25. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 441 |
dont do the tapering shit--its a waste of time. do your 1st cycle there but change the doses to a constant like you have in your second cycle: ----like 500mg susto whole time;last wk 250mg ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1131 |
I gained 35 "pounds" on my first cycle of eq/dbol but I like to think my diet and training are top notch--been bodybuilding for about 2 years (19 years old if you haven't read any of my cycle updates)...about 25 of the pounds were muscle, the rest was fat and water, but I can live with that ratio since my next show isn't for about 14 more weeks...go easy on your first one, you don't want to fry your receptors and have to use 2 grams of test on your next cycle to gain 10 pounds...you're young like me, bro--YOU'VE GOT YEARS TO GROW!!! Drop me an e-mail if you have any more questions... ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 124 |
week 1t0 6 1000mgs omna 600mgs deca per wk also 50mgs naposim & 4ius gh per day backed up with 2 x 10 units act rapid insulin u will grow | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 532 |
To tell you the truth you might have to do both of those cycles to get a solid 35 lbs of LBM. Start with cycle 1 take a month or two off and then hit cycle 1 again or cycle 2. You might be surprised at what you would gain off of 250mg a week of test for 8-10 weeks and 25mg of dbol a day for 6 weeks. 20 lbs of LBM is very possible for your first cycle with low doses if your diet and training are right. What is your height? It kinda sounds like you have a ways to go with diet and training before you get into roids but I know we all want to be big right now so do your research. More is not always better. I would rethink those numbers a bit, especially at your size. Later, ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 241 |
Don't go too hard on your first cycle | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 293 |
I would go this rought for your first may gain 20-25 pounds week 1 750mg sus week1-10 400mg eq 2-9 500mg sus include arimidex at a 1/2 tab every other day | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 870 |
LISTEN! Your first cycle is always going to be your best cycle, as long as you do everything correctly. It is definitely NOT impossible to gain 35lbs on your first cycle. Now if this is the same guy that emailed me, do the cycle that I sent you, eat, sleep and train correctly and you'll come close to your desired results. Don't slack off after your cycle. A few weeks after your cycle you will lose some weight, but keep training and you'll be just fine. You do need to taper the dbol and increase your deca dosage. If you're going to do a cycle do it right and you'll be happy! ------------------ | ||
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Novice 
Posts: 9 |
Hey, EL CUBANO I am curious, and I would like to gain 35lbs on my first cycle...too. What's this cycle? sust/deca/Dbol. Thanks for your post. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 870 |
w1 750mg sust 400mg deca 35mg dbol w2 750mg sust 600mg deca 35mg dbol w3 750mg sust 600mg deca 30mg dbol w4 750mg sust 600mg deca 25mg dbol w5 750mg sust 600mg deca 20mg dbol w6 500mg sust 600mg deca 15mg dbol 400 primo w7 500mg sust 600mg deca 400 primo w8 250mg sust 400mg deca 400 primo w9 400mg primo w10 100mg clomid 400 primo w11 50mg clomid This is slightly different than the one that I gave him. Some people say to start light, some say to stay away from test, but I'm a strong believer that you should make the best of your first cycle. These dosages really aren't very high, just ask E2 and Biz! ------------------ | ||
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Novice
Posts: 9 |
I won't do any test on my first cycle if I were you. It may be the last time that you can grow without it. Kickstart it with d-bol for a few weeks then just keep on with Deca and Primo. You won't gain 35 lbs but you'll keep alot from the Deca and Primo. Good luck | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 823 |
El cubano the dude weighs 160 lbs!!! Total overkill. Where's 2thick lol!! | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
hacker what dose that mean? | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 823 |
I was looking at the cycle el cubano gave you. It's a total overkill!! Especially at your size (160 lbs. first cycle) I'm just giving my opinion some will disagree but that's what this board is for. I would do 500mg sus/wk (inject Mon/Thurs) and 400mg deca/wk (Mon/Thurs) Clomid at the end. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 649 |
Yes, I agree with Hacker. Get yourself about 16 sust amps and 2 bottles of Nor200. Take 1 sust amp and 1cc of Nor on Monday, and do the same on Thursday. Also, I would be running clomid 50mg EOD throughout the entire cycle, as well as at the end. D. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 532 |
I know that you will gain 35 lbs on el cubano's cycle but I gotta say that I think it is too much for a first cycle. In comparison to what most really big guys take it isn't very much but I hope to never have to take 2grams of test a week with 50-100mg dbol a day and 800mg of eq to grow. I can't even remember who helped me design my first cycle, but I actually think it was the old BigPappaPump or you El Cubano. I should remember since it was just over two years ago but I do remember the cycle. It was 6 weeks of dbol at 25mg a day and 8 weeks of sus250 at 250mg a week with an extra 250 thrown in at weeks 6 and 7. I gained 37 lbs on that cycle because I ate a shit load and worked my ass off while managing over 8 hours of sleep a day with a hellish college schedule. If I can do that with my shitty endomorph?(fatass) genetics then there is no reason that this guy shouldn't be able to put on that much with less. Of course some of the weight was water and fat but I would say at least 25 lbs was LBM. Do what you want but there is no turning back mentally once you start doing higher doses. Later, ------------------ | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 870 |
Hey giantset, I do remember giving you advice before, but I don't think that I gave you your first cycle. 250mg of sust per week isn't even enough to get your dick hard. Now he can lower the dosages or drop either the primo or the deca, but this cycle IS what he asked for. He want to gain 35lbs on his first cycle. As long as he takes 10-12 weeks off before stating his next cycle he'll be ok. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 121 |
bro... Take it easy on yourself...sure you probably can gain 35 pounds but don't plan on keeping it all. Just start with half a gram a week of some kinda test: sustanon,primoteston etc and add 200-400mg of deca or 400mg of eq run them side by side if you want. Whatever you chose run it at least 2 weeks longer than the test. Do some d-bol or ref-b if you need something the 1st four weeks to keep you busy while the rest kicks in. Eat like a madman, train hard and you'll be happy with what you see. At the end of your cycle decide if you want bridge or check here for help as fair as keeping what you gain. Mike ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
thanks guys for everything | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 368 |
No flame intended, but if you weigh 160 I think you need to train naturally for about a year longer. I gained about 20lbs naturally from age 20 to 21. I say wait a year to see if you have anymore growing left in you and then do el cubano's stack. Good luck. | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 11 |
i have been lifting and i keep hovering around the same weight. i use to wrestle in high school and i was loosing alot of weight every week. so i fucked up my growth already |
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posted November 27, 2000 05:46 PM