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 To Drink or not to drink your Winny, thats the ???
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Cool Novice 
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I understand that injecting is a prefered method of choice, but the question is to drink or not to drink your Winny?     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 80 |
I would suggest the search option !!! You may be opening a can of worms on this one... Bootyshaker | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 375 |
I will use both methods, when i decide to use winny. There is no difference. So if you dont like injecting, drink up... | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 197 |
drink it.... people are going to flame you for asking this. use the search...and make up your own mind, people here got diff. opinions on this. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 55 |
Results are better if you inject bro! But it is up to you and what you want out of it. ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 345 |
This is an interesting question that has been going around. Just to mention a few things but not completely answer your question. I was doing some research over the weekend and was reading that drinking injectables was not the intended purpose (purpose was to inject intermuscular) and thus much of the active substance is broken down by the liver. I believe their is some truth to this article, if you logically think about it and from now on will never drink water based substances. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 197 |
I read on this board that it was 17a (something) so I would be the same.. anyway... I still think, using the search would be a good idea... | ||
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Guru 
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It doesnt matter what form it comes in, liquid, pill, whatever its the saem substance made the same way. Your body doesnt care whether it came from a vial or a pill, its treated the same way in your body. They are made injectable b/c animals dont like to take pills or drink medicine. This question is so old, nothing new will be said in this thread guarenteed, so search this and read the arguments that have been going on for YEARS. I say drink and you will too after a few cycles of eod shots. Slopain ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 964 |
You have GOT to be butt-fucking me... I cannot believe this question is back! Get with the program! Liquid or pill form, it's still Stanazolol! Drink it, drink it, DRINK IT! Why does this question come up all the time, yet no one questions the efficacy of drinking Ref-B? All that is is liquid Dianabol, yet no one has a problem drinking it. It's the same concept with Winstrol/Stanazolol. So, get your head out of your ass and learn about the drugs you're putting in your body! [This message has been edited by GymRatSD (edited November 27, 2000).] | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 964 |
quote: Bro, if you don't know what you're talking about, don't give advice. If you end up injecting Ref-B, you more than likely will end up with an unnecessary abcess on your ass! It's the same concept with drinking the winny! What is there to "logically think about"? Why don't you try to explain this one (note the emphasis on "try")? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 441 |
quote:ah--listen up liver we got some injectable coming down your way but they took it orally, so you know what to do w/it---break it down differently---over and out!!!LOL are you kidding me????? wheres macro on this one--end it quickly please. ------------------ | ||
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Guru
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And Gymratsd is usually a rather pleasent fellow.. I feel his pain, this question has to be the all time most repeated and ignored and then repeated again. The threads now are usually titled: "I know you can drink winny, but can you drink the winny???" or[i]"Ok whats the final word on drinking winny"[/q] lol its kind of funny... well the first 50 times anyways. Slopain ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 288 |
hahaha | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 964 |
Sorry... had to vent... I have prop in my ass and disappointing results with my cycle so far. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 240 |
Since Winny is a vet drug, I would imagine that the only reason it says for IM injection, is because it would be a bit difficult trying to get your horse or dog to drink winny or take winny tabs. Just my .02 | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1185 |
I would inject, that is my preference, always has been, though if you are doing the powdered version, then I would drink, as you don't know how sterile it is. This is one time you need your liver to filter out any impurities. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 441 |
LOL now thats funny ghost--never thought of that!!!!!! ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 345 |
Hey WTF, why the flames coming my way. I just stated what I read in an article and "STATED" that logically looking at it, it made sense. Ok so you guys dont think so, but WTF with the flames. Are you seriously telling me that when it passes the liver the first time (when drinking) none of the substance is broken down whatsoever? If this is true, and im not saying it isnt, why do people get better results when injecting? Any insight? In fact the article I read came off of Anabolicextreme.com in past articles. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Guru
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Iron game-Whether it is injected or taken orally,it passes through the liver SEVERAL times,and is ultimately metabolized by the liver.So it makes no difference the method of administration,all that simply does is change the route to the same destination. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 403 |
Yes this topic comes up time after time, but everyone is still giving eachother the same BS... Winstrol Depo is just as effective as the Winstrol-V WHEN INJECTED... Winstrol-V is stanozolol in a water base, it was not meant to drink, it was meant for intra-muscular injection... Don't drink it, you will not be getting the full effectiveness of the winny-v... Just get some insulin syringes and it doesn't hurt injecting at all. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 649 |
OK, My advice would definitely be to drink it..... The only difference I found with drinking or injecting was that I had to get a huge abcess cut open and drained while injecting winny. So, if you don't want to risk being out of commission for 7 weeks, I would just drink it. D. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1019 |
I've recently read an article (in a scientific, peer reviewed journal) that stated "The oral dose of stanozolol was well absorbed, with 75% reaching the blood stream.....". The lay-interpretation of this is that 25% of your winny is lost if you take it orally. So take 33% more of it (spread throughout the day) and you should get the same effect as injecting it. | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 964 |
quote: You are SOOO wrong! Winstrol-V is a veterinary product! It's the same drug, regardless! Just because it's in a water base does NOT mean it's less effective orally! I'm still wondering why this is an issue with Winstrol only and not Ref-B. Someone, please try to clear this point. | ||
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Guru
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LOL,I hear you gymrat.Anybody that advocates shooting ref-b needs to be bludgeoned to death with a 45lb.plate...lol... | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 345 |
I agree with Rugby and I am so gonna proove you are wrong Gymrats. It is so god damn fucking logical that by taking any substance orally you are breaking a small portion of it down via the liver. As you probably know orals pass through the liver more than once, minimum amount is on the way in (1) and on the way out (2). a17s pass through more than twice. Now each time it passes some of the substance is metabolized and wasted by the liver. Are you too naive to know this? I dont understand what your logic is? We are not talking about Reforvit B. We are talking about winny, and people do that as much as 50mg ed injectable, some 100mgs every other day. Do you hear them complaining about abscess's and so on? Fuck sakes relate the answer to the question. Suspension and Winny are destructed slighly if taken orally. Rugby posted above on how much was destroyed before it was put to use (now i dont know if these figures are correct or not but at least he has the idea). You will no doubt be seeing some research deeper into the matter if you still disagree with this logic! Before flaming and shouting out obscenities "Butt Fuck Me" or whatever go do some reading. No flame intended to anyone else. Just hate it when someone gives an opinion and it is flamed for no reason. ------------------ You may be disappointed if you fail, but you are doomed if you don't try | ||
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Guru
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Well I look foward to your research, 5% is what Ill give you that maybe lost, obviously not enough to do any dramatic damage compared to shooting eod and ed. All water based products are highly susceptible (sp) to bacteria, that is why their is a higher rate of abcess and infection with them, does that mean that everyone who ever injects winny will have a problem, certainly not. Just something to remember when making a descision about whether to shoot or drink. I look foward to you research Iron, keep us updated. Slopain ------------------ For a good time click here: Search and Profiles (300Kleens Board) | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 964 |
First, the so-called "flames" were that this question has been asked numerous times ad nauseum. Second, both stanazolol (Winstrol) and methandrostenole (dianabol) are 17-alpha alkylated steroids. Both were developed as oral drugs. Both have been around for a minimum of 20 years (d-bol for much longer). Both are available as a tablet or a liquid suspension. Both are effective orally. The reason 17-aa steroids were developed so they could be taken orally. If you notice, there's not one version of stanazolol made for human use that's an injectible. Why? People don't have a difficult time with tablets. The liquid suspension was developed for veterinary purposes because it's much easier giving an animal a small injection than trying to get them to swallow a pill. (There is also an injectible Winstrol for emergency treatment in hospitals for burn patients, but you're not likely to see this on the street.) The 17-aa steroids do not break down easily by the liver -- their intended purpose. Therefore, the "first-pass" theory is bullshit. A very small amount will be metabolized by the liver before the body has the ability to use it. This is why 17-aa steroids are difficult on the liver -- they require several passes before the drug is completely neutralized by the liver. Injected stanazolol will be slightly more effective than oral, not due to the liver, but to the STOMACH. The stomach acids will attack a small portion of the drug before it's absorbed through the stomach and intestinal walls. Taking it orally has many advantages: So, if you find any information that disputes what I just said here, I'd like to see it (though I doubt I will). I'll even give you my fax number so you can send your medical journal over to me. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 455 |
LMAO@ Gymrat!!! Damn bro, you are off the hook. Listen to the Rat, he knows his shit.. Nuff said. ------------------ It's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6! T. Shakur A coward dies a thousand deaths, a solider dies but one.. RAGE, Rage against the dieing of the light!  | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 67 |
I prefer to drink it. | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1170 |
Gymrat said it well i will give you the short version If you want to take AS be prepared to inject period load the damn needle stick it in push the plunger and stop whinning about the pin ------------------ | ||
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Cool Novice
Posts: 16 |
drink it its easier | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 93 |
Just drink it my man. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 285 |
So does this mean you can drink liquid D-Bol? JOKE. Anyone that knows the knows the history of anabolics knows that 17-alkylated steroids were developed for ORAL consumption. The injectible versions made it easier for animals. "Orals add their own benefits, not because of binding to different receptors, but probably for their direct action on the liver which produces various growth factors". Dan Duchaine's response: Also, just to throw in: "The combination of an oral steroid with an injectable steroid is a valid practice because THE INITIAL PASS THROUGH THE LIVER GENERATES VARIOUS GROWTH FACTORS, SOME IDENTIFIED, OTHERS NOT. THESE GROWTH FACTORS ARE ONES NOT GENERATED FROM INJECTABLE STEROIDS." Page 13, Dan Duchaine. DRINK THE WINNY, DRINK THE WINNY, DRINK THE WINNY | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 402 |
dont listen to these fuckers they know not what they speak of  i dont even take the tabs orally...i just grind the fuckers up, mix it with propylene glycol and i.m. w/ an 18g dart---its the only way to fly. nice pick of the thialandian brotha...the breakfast of champions........... Unity66 | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 532 |
As long as the winny enters an orfice in your body it will work. You can shoot it in your ass, shove it up your ass, shoot it up your nose, shoot it in your mouth, put it in you MRP, put it on your corn flakes, you can shoot it in a fox, you can drink it in a box, you can drink it here or there, or shoot your winny, I just don't care. These people that keep asking this stupid fucking question must have voted in West Palm Beach. Later, ------------------ | ||
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Guru
Posts: 4679 |
LOL @ giantset... | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1115 |
unles your needle-phobic, inject it, GO WITH 150mg EVERY 3rd DAY. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 58 |
well how about drinking SYNTHOL? i'm thinking of drinking it...heheheee.. [This message has been edited by BigBazooka (edited November 28, 2000).] | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 472 |
Snort the winny!! | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 315 |
If you're just doing winny alone inject it..the localized muscle growth is a great bonus.. but if you are on alot of injectibles already then shooting winny so much can be a pain so then drink it.. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 199 |
Not sure which method to use? ....Give me your fuckin winny, I'll decide for you! Bwahahaha |
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posted November 27, 2000 11:12 AM
