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Jae

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posted November 27, 2000 10:55 AM

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I just finished 12 weeks of the following: cyp (400mg), prop(200mg), deca(300mg), and primo (200mg added last 5 weeks). I used 4ius of Serostim daily 5 days on 2 days off. Insulin was used for first time ever the last seven weeks. I also used a little Anavar the first two weeks to jump start my cycle and strength increase.

My stats before cycle: 188lbs, about 17-18% bodyfat.

My stats after cycle: 206Lbs, about 12-13% bodyfat.

I added roughly 40 pounds on my bench (it still sucks though) 60 pounds on my squat (though do not know what my max is. I went from using 385 for 8-10 reps to 455 for 7-8 reps)
The pain I was having from an injured back went away completely, thank you GH.
I also did 30 mins cardio each lunch break for the first 7 weeks to help avoid the water bloat from test and deca.

This was my first cycle in four years. I could have gained much more, but I am very happy because I actually dropped my BF levels, and look vascular as hell right now. I just kept my protein at 300-350mg daily and low carbs as possible. I hate the puffy face from test use.

An interesting note, the first five weeks of GH useage when I was using no insulin was when I dropped my bodyfat level. When I added the insulin, my bodyfat did not decrease anymore, but that is when I triggered the wild growth and weight increase. Up until I started insulin, I had only gained 6 pounds, though my body fat loss made it look like more. With insulin, my muscles were much fuller, rounder, and after the weight jumped up, bigger!! Conclusion: if using GH, make sure you use insulin along with it.

My next cycle is going to consist of something like this for ten weeks:

Sust 500mg (or Aratest - I need to get some feedback on both of these)
Deca 300mg
Winstrol 100mg one day, 50mg the next day, then back to 100mg again, alternating days and doseage. I am going to be using the blue 50mg winny tablets from the underground source, but just for good measure in case the tabs are underdosed, I am going to be shooting winny 50mg on the other days as a safe guard.
And of course 4ius of GH daily, and insulin as well again.

I have 20 primo amps left. What would you think of adding 200mg per week for the ten weeks to the cycle? I also have a pretty good supply of Anavar as well. Add this or should I keep the primo and Anavar and use 300mg Primo weekly, 30mg Anavar daily to bridge for six weeks with?

Any suggestions?

Oh yeah, would like to add T3 or cytomel to my next cycle as I understand you need thyroid supplements to really see the growth horomone work. Would someone mind sharing how to take this (it still sort of scares me a little)

Jae

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[This message has been edited by Jae (edited November 27, 2000).]


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Bignick12345

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posted November 27, 2000 11:08 AM

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Damn,
Give me some gear
Looks good bro, glad to hear your happy with your results.
Nick


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DSPO

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posted November 27, 2000 11:22 AM

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Great gains bro. What do you attribute most of the BF reduction to?


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Fonz

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posted November 27, 2000 11:24 AM

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I would use 100mg/day of winstrol, this would give better gains.


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Hacker

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posted November 27, 2000 11:29 AM

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Jae, how come 5 days on 5 days off on the GH? Don't most go 5 days on 2 off, or 6 on 1 off?

Also, maybe you can answer my post. (scroll down)


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Jae

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posted November 27, 2000 12:02 PM

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Hacker, I made an error, it should have read 5 days on and 2 off. I would use GH M-F and then none on Saturday or Sunday. I was trying to mimic the natural GH release in the body through the puberty years.

And I contribute most of my body fat loss to GH itself. I don't think the cardio I was doing was making much of an impact, I lost the BF% the first five weeks until I introduced insulin in my cycle.


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CLEMDOG

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posted November 27, 2000 12:08 PM

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great job Jae!


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ROIDRANGER

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posted November 27, 2000 12:08 PM

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good gains bro. what insulin were you using, how much and when did you take it.....id like more info in your insulin use//thanks

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Jae

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posted November 27, 2000 12:08 PM

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Hacker, I don't see your post.,

Clemdog, I want your DNP experiement results and thoughts.


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Jae

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posted November 27, 2000 12:11 PM

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I was shooting insulin 10ius in the AM immediately upon rising, having a Twin lab Ultra Fuel, then shaving, showering, dressing, booting up and logging onto my company server from home and then having my breakfast. I would eat about 1 hour after taking the insulin. Heavy protein meal.

I would take another shot immediately following the workout, 10 ius again. Have an ultra fuel, shower, drive home and eat again.

I was using Humalin R.


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Krusher

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posted November 27, 2000 12:53 PM

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How much did the gh set you back? Do you feel it was worth it?


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KODIAK99

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posted November 27, 2000 12:58 PM

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nice work bro. ..

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Jae

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posted November 27, 2000 12:59 PM

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It is worth it as long as you do it right, just stumbling around and not knowing what you are doing is just a waste of $$$$.

But it is not a miracle worker, it is just a little "magic" to throw in your cycle.

The average price I see it going for is $600-$650. Unless it is cheaper.


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Krusher

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posted November 27, 2000 09:29 PM

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Adding 18lbs of muscle while dropping bf% by 5% is dramatic..the results probably show more on the mirror than on the scale. Would you mind helping me design a gh cycle? I would appreciate the input of someone with first-hand experience.


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heavywear

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posted November 27, 2000 09:37 PM

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post a pic man!

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Jae

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posted November 28, 2000 10:51 AM

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I will help with your cycle, let me know what you are using and how much, I will post it and get some feedback from the other vets and mods.

And yes, it shows more in the mirror than it does on the scale, I look like I gained 35 pounds all together. Everyone is asking me shit now. Because I didn't have the test bloat look and did not get acne, they do not suspect I could have been using juice.


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