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Syringes

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posted November 26, 2000 06:20 PM

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Hey,

I train hard an want to get away from drinking a bit. Any of you bro use G or GHB to party? I hear it's dangerous but in moderation wonderful. Also, is it hard to get? Is it expensive? i have never heard of it until the other day. I don't think i have ever seen it on any of the suppliers lists.

Also, if you know of a website or a place where i can get a GHB Kit, post that on here too.

If you can help me out with some info, let me know

later.


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panerai

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posted November 26, 2000 06:25 PM

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What GHB stands for?


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devistator2

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Yeah, at my old job there was this guy who was my age who used to tell me that he could get me liquid GHB becasue he knew I was into health and exerciseing and eating nutrisiously. He used to tell me...Dont drink do GHB. Beacuse we all know the risks of guys who have taken sateriods and then drink hevily have a higher chance of haveing kidney and liver problems the older they get. GHB is supposedly like the bodybuilders alternative to drinking. But your question of sources I cannot help you with I havent had a good source in a few years.


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bodishatva

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posted November 26, 2000 07:31 PM

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GHB stands for gamma hydroxy buterate.


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1Mistake

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posted November 26, 2000 07:33 PM

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G is greay if taken the right way. NO booze!!! Try to max at 1 cap an hr. Any more than that and you could run into some problems.The Feds put it on the controlled I list in the US

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Syringes

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posted November 26, 2000 08:56 PM

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Bump...


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The Canadian Oak

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posted November 26, 2000 09:10 PM

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isnt that shit paint thinner and draino? or am i thinking of another drug

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KODIAK99

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Isn't this like asking for a source on the board. Actually it is exactly like that. Come on boys, read the label at the start up section. . .Not here. . .not ever. We don't ask for sources on the board, we don't post them and as far as getting fucked up on ghb, this is an anabolic board. Most of us aren't interested in the chat room BS spilling over here. . .For god's sake we take AS, not mind altering drugs. We are not looking to escape, we are the guys looking to grab reality by the throat and squeez a bit. Now get this thread off this board.

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May1010

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posted November 26, 2000 09:22 PM

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The gay guyz here in San Francisco love GHB (aka "Grievous Bodily Harm") for partying and "playing". I've done GHB in the past but have given up doing illicit drugs for pleasure purposes. (Good Times!)

That said, GHB makes you very sexual. It's also deadly when combined with ANY AMOUNT of alcohol, INCLUDING BEER. There are several cases of guys in San Francisco overdosing and dying in San Francisco on it. Once your high kicks in, all you'll want to do is fuck, and depending upon your orientation, suck.

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lawnsaver

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I use ghb regularly. I use it in moderation, because "g"ing out is not fun. It makes me horny and gives me a euphoric feeling. I have mixed it with a few beers etc. I'm still here. Dont do anything in excess. Ghb in moderation is by far the best thing to do if you choose to do drugs or drink.


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Scooter

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posted November 27, 2000 04:09 AM

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First of all this does NOT belong in this forum.

None the less, before anyone thinks about trying this stuff, check out this site:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/ghb/ghb.shtml

This is by no means an Anti-drug or anti GHB site. Read the experiences section....this shit can fuck you up. I'd pass.

At least with booze you are dealing with a known quantity. With this stuff you never know what you are geting.


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Fonz

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posted November 27, 2000 05:34 AM

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Been using GHB for partying for about 3 years running. It is one of the best alternatives to drinking that I know of. Also, it is also much more effective than alcohol. It actually increases libido and most importantly you get no hangovers. It is not catabolic like alcohol(it's actually anabolic(increses GH levels)). Drawbacks:
1. Never drink it with alcohol, not even beer. GHB competes for the same receptor as alcohol in the liver, therefore alcohol in the bloodstream skyrockets upwards, causing blood poisoning due to alcohol. This latter reason is why GHB was banned.
2. Sometimes(when I first began), you take too much of it trying to extend your feeling of euphoria throughout the night. In this case GHB makes you go into deep sleep(you pass out), and are completely unresponsive to external stimulae(people slapping you etc..), until your body can process the carbon dioxide supplied to your body by the GHB(GHB breaks down to water and CD in your body). This can be freaky to other people, but it is not life threatening at all. Guys used to do this to girls back in the 80's. Hence GHB being slandered as a date-rape drug.


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scott825

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posted November 27, 2000 05:59 AM

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I cant find the stuff no where here.Anyone know any sites?

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Syringes

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posted November 27, 2000 09:09 AM

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Bump... Any HELPFUL info is greatly appreciated. People like Kodiak99 can kiss my GOD DAMN ASS! and go fuck himself


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posted November 27, 2000 09:18 AM

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Sure, email me for info
my email is

[email protected]

or visit my GHB site a www.imafed.com

or www.yourgoingtojail.com

Be smart guys,
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KODIAK99

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posted November 27, 2000 09:36 AM

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thanks nick, this dude is a fucking idiot.

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jesus

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posted November 27, 2000 10:31 AM

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A few of you guys have said this discusion does not belong on this board. Well besides partying ghb is used by many bodybuilders. In fact I had never heard of it untill I was introduced to AS. So I think this is the only and best place to discuss it since most bodybuilders use it for beneficial purposes. The only problem is that since it was scheduled a class I substance everyone is scared shitless to talk about it. So keep your negative input to a minimum unless you have some first hand experiences with this stuff messing you up. Not "I heard"


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posted November 27, 2000 11:32 AM

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Well put Jesus, could not have put it any better. I heard that steroids don't work and can kill you too ! LOL


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good response FONZ, all these negative responses about ghb that werent informative at all---just shows that those people never really expiermented w/it, but they damn sure sound like the tabloids dont they, how can you tell someone its scary if you really have no clue?????? its just like the guru who thinks he knows it all about juice, but never juiced--give me a fucking break.

SYRINGES this could be a good thread, unfortunately your dumb-ass doesnt understand that you need to stop asking where to get it--cause thats not allowed here, and you wont be here long if it keeps up.

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Goodfella4life

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posted November 27, 2000 12:12 PM

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This stuff isn't to be partying with I know some people who ODed on it, you can get to the point you don't know how much you did or are doing when partying.


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thats why you need to know how to limit yourself, its a very deadly drug if mixed w/ any other cns depressent, i can almost bet $$$that g wasnt the only thing in that person's system that OD.

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CLEMDOG

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posted November 27, 2000 12:21 PM

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it is definitely a good substitute for alcohol. I used 1,4 butanediol (you can get this legally) and I had a good time using it. It seemed, however, that if it was in my possession I was going to take it. I ended up taking it about 5 nights out of the week, which I think was a little excessive.

If you want 1,4 or GBL (legal) go to your internet start up and do a search for these or paint remover or the likes.


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Julez

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posted November 27, 2000 12:30 PM

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Hi,

GHB is good. I've had some nasty come down when I've had too much, then again I've had some mind blowing sex to...

Also, even though GHB is technically illegal in this country, it is very very easy to buy from some sex shops (especially in London, particually Soho).

One thing though, NEVER drink and do GHB.... you WILL regret it!

Have fun!

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Valdez

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quote:
Originally posted by CLEMDOG:
it is definitely a good substitute for alcohol. I used 1,4 butanediol (you can get this legally) and I had a good time using it. It seemed, however, that if it was in my possession I was going to take it. I ended up taking it about 5 nights out of the week, which I think was a little excessive.

If you want 1,4 or GBL (legal) go to your internet start up and do a search for these or paint remover or the likes.


UH?? where have you been guy? GBL aka 1 4 butanediol aka gamma bytrolactone IS ILLEGAL AND HAS BEEN SO FOR ABOUT 1 YEAR AND A HALF. SORRY BRO. it is fedrally regulated under the "date rape substance act of 1998" along with GHB and Ketamine.


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This is ridiculous, of course people who don't do it are gonna come up with all these terrible things that'll happen if you take G.......GHB is a substance like many others....If you are responsible with it, you'll be safe 99% of the time. If you down two or three caps and put down 5 or 6 beers, then you're asking for it. You should research everything and anything that goes into your body...Personally, I love the stuff..If you decide to try it, do a lot of reading first and you'll be safe.

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Valdez

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posted November 27, 2000 12:34 PM

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And yes this topic does belong in the anabolic board. this drug does as some guy said metabolize into CO and H20 meaning it is NON-toxic, although don't ever mix it with CNS depressants especially alcohol.

with the current scheduling of class I. I think it would be best left along though, IMO.


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lawnsaver

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Its funny how the people who have never tried g have so much negativity. I have been using it for about 4 years and yes I have seen people pass out, throw up etc. I have never seen anybody die. I live in south florida and it is used more down here than anywhere else in the USA. Used properly and resonsibly it is by far the best thing out there. When used in excess or mixed with other depresants it can be dangerous.

Lets not be ignorant to things without fully understanding the issue. Its like we all were when we first heard of steroids... They will kill you, cause brain cancer, make your dick fall off. Well we know that not to be true, except with super doses for 10 years straight.

I know you guys hear me, so be opened minded. GHB is not the anti-christ, it just not fully understaned by all.


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Syringes

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First of all let me say thanks to the people who actually are willing to help other bro's out. Secondly, i just want to say one thing. FUCK KODIAK99. Every posting i have ever made on this board, i have gotton a smart ass remark from him. He thinks that he is just the shit, but in actuality, he is really a dumbass. If you don't have enough balls to actaully help some one else out, then you don't have balls period. It's that simple.

Thanks everyone, and lets bump it up one more time


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MICHLDAV

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I'll bump it for ya syringes.
Friends of mine also use the GHB for partying(all from bodybuilding societyes), some can't controle it, play safe-and normally u'll be fine.
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andre

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does g cause depression and extreme tiredness or toxic brain damage like x? what the soma stuff? is that g also? soma is pink, and g is blue?


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santo smith

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Soma,,,I use that stuff right now it is O.K.
I would prefer the real G , but i can't get my hands on any


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ManOSteele

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GHB is a bodybuilding drug. It is used for partying and getting f*cked!! Alot of pro-bodybuilders and competitive atheletes use it before they work out. It is an indepth article in USA Today about bodybuilders using and it increasing muscle growth. Alot of my friends use 1 cap before there workout while cycling. I have not done it myself...All of them swear by it though. I have used it at parties before to increase the roll while on xctacy...Don't mess with any of it now. Pretty sure I could point you in the right direction though...It is a company that sales it as All-Purpose Cleaner...Will cost you about $120/bottle...A cap full sales for about $3-5/cap.GoodLuck...


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BigPhysicsBastard

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Well, MOS's post was the first one I saw that gave this stuff credibility as a BB drug. Before that, it was just about getting a harder hard-on, to that point I agreed with some of the other guys that this doesn't belong here. We're here for AS, drugs that enhance working out, which is my personal religion. Mind altering drugs or partying drugs is not why I come here. If there really is an anabolic use for the stuff, than fine. But I can see where Kodiak and some others didn't like this post, I didnt' either till I got to the bottom. MOS, you said that some of your boys like the stuff for it's BB purposes. Can you tell me exactly what it does to enhance workouts? Is it an aggression lifter, etc.....


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steer clear as if u get hooked how will they treat u? its easy er to treat a heroin addict www.biohazard849.com


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Valdez

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???!!!??? WTF ???!?!?!?!?!??!?

GHB is NOT repeat NOT addictive. here is
some accurate info on GHB http://leda.lycaeum.org/Documents/GHB_FAQ.10208.shtml


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RojoDiablo

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To Valdez 1-4 butanediol is not federally scheduled. The way the law reads(this isn't exact but it's close): GHB and all it's salts polymers and isomers are illegal, (GBL is a salt of GHB) 1-4 butanediol is none of the above. That said 1-4 may be scheduled in certain states. I use 1-4 butanediol for partying as well as for its reported benefits as a elevator of GH level's during sleep. They use to sell 1-4 butanediol containing products as legal supplements that were supposed to increase GH levels during sleep. For that reason i think this thread is definately on the right board. Even if it didn't have any positive effects for BB i think it is important to be here so people know there are ways to relax, party,
etc. without cutting into there gains (like alcohol).
I just wanted to add something for people who measure GBL or 1-4 with a cap... get a damn syringe most overdoses are the result of people taking the wrong amount due to an inaccurate measuring device. And as has been stated many times above DON'T use with other CNS depressants.


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Here we go:GHB is NOT addictive-by FDA standards its not even a drug.Its naturally in your brain in small amounts.Its NOT toxic AT ALL!! In Europe its legal for alcohoics and addicts to "come down".The media hype is pure BS!!The real reason its illegal is a HUGE US drug company is coming out with a drug VERY close to G to cure insomnia.Its all about $$$.K99-If you don't know about stuff,just shut the fuck up.I don't smoke weed,but I could care less what someone else does.1,4 Butanediol IS ILLEGAL in the US.Trust me,I know.Did you ever hear of En-liven?? I helped to design and market it-So I know my shit

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BigPhysicsBastard

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posted November 27, 2000 07:07 PM

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well if it can be used as a sleepaid that enhances recovery during sleep, I would definitely have to look into that.


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Bump!


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GHB when used as a sleep aid wil induce a stage 3 or 4 sleep, which is not wakable. This will put your body in a sleep that will make you recover faster. A 4 hour sleep while on g will allow your body to recover as if you slept 8 hours.

This is my 3rd post on this thread and ghb when used properly is safe and productive to your body. The uneducated are the one who abuse and give g the bad rap we read about.


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posted November 28, 2000 12:48 AM

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cant you go into a coma? and for Valdez, YOU IDIOT ANYTHING CAN BE ADDICTIVE! AND FUCK YOU KODIAK!!!!


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Valdez you are wrong. GHB is pychologically addictive.
Ask my roommate and 2 of my friends. He'll tell you how fucking bad it is to kick it. My roommate could not fall asleep unless he had it around. His body was so dependent on it to help him go to sleep. He could not sleep for DAYS if he did not have it handy.

He told me about this one guy that was so hooked on it that he had to take it constantly. He went to the doctor and the doctor told him that his body was so dependent on it that if he stopped taking it he would die. Crazy shit HUH!!

Personally, I love the shit because it is a great recovery drug (great for any kind of hangover) and it definitely helps elevate your mood.

But I won't take it to help me sleep because then my body would be dependent on G to help me fall asleep.


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lawnsaver

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Its not addictive. The person using it might have an addictive nature, but ghb is not.

What could happen is he likes the way it feel and thats what brings him back. I like the taste of coke and I always drink it, but coke is not addictive, so why do I always go back to it??


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posted November 28, 2000 12:53 AM

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Big Physics!! Yes it is a good sleeping aid but do you REALLY want to rely on GHB everytime you wanna go to sleep?

Not a good idea!!!!


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Lawnsaver you cannot compare Coke and GHB. YOu are comparing oranges and apples.

Why don't you ask my buddy why he couldn't leave it alone?

He could not sleep for days if he did not have GHB to help him go to sleep. This stuff can be more addictive than HEROIN. I've personally seen peoples lives go down the shitter because of it.

I'm not saying that GHB is something bad. It's just a drug that needs to be used with extreme caution. And with extreme caution it can be a good drug. Personally, I would not use this drug to help with your sleep.

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To 1Mistake: Read the Federal Schedule it is n't on there. Selling 1-4 butandiol for human consumption maybe illegal but possession is definately not illegal if you can prove its for something other than use as a drug. 1-4 Butanediol is used to make certain kinds of plastics as ink jet cleaner as a component of deck stripper etc. It is used in many industrial processes if it were schedule one it would be illegal to possess in any amount for any purpose and it is not.


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i tried it, made me puked, never use it with alcohol. they sell a legal form of it called "rejuvenate". BB use it to sleep at night, kids at the club use it to dance all night.

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Rojo- I had plenty of time to read the guidelines while I was in jail this past winter. Its ALL illegal. I'll tell you what:try and order it from an online company-if it gets opened you will be charged with importing and possesion of a controlled I drug.No joke- I'm going back to jail for quite some time for club drugs-I REALLY know what the law says

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Maybe a dumb question, but is Gbl the same... or what I mean, is it as SAFE as Ghb. In other words...is everything that has been documented about Ghb in relation to or the same as Gbl?


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GBL basically gives you the same effect. You just have to take more of it.


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1Mistake:
What were you charged with?
How long are you going to the clink for?


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ghb is addictive- withdrawl is rough- i did not become addicted- but friends have- one even went into rehab for a long time to kick it-tomo


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I don't belive in the word addicted! It is called "lack of will power"


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Supraman:
Ok I think the better word here is DEPENDENT!!


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G is for me. i love it. becareful. do your homework, and yes it is addicting.

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hey, i found a place that tells me exactly how to make the stuff. i can find all the ingreidents that i need except fot gamma butyrolactone . Anyone have any ideas? Also, thanks for all the reply!

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I tried it myself sometimes. I like the effect when I take it but I'm feeling real slow the next day. It's Just like I don't wake up completely. It's real cheap!!

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I got this from the renegade site;

For the thirty years prior to 1990, the scientific papers on GHB were unanimous in reporting numerous beneficial physiological effects and the absence of long-term negative effects. There are no documented reports of long-term [detrimental] effects. Nor is there any evidence for physiologic addiction." GHB is not approved in the US and was been banned from over-the-counter sale by the FDA as of November 8th, 1990.


I have used it personally and found it to be good for sleep and anxiety.
I went through about a litre of it and didn't get addicted though I took it only occasionaly.
Its a lot better than drinking IMHO, at least its not bad for the liver and it doesn't make people violent.

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what the fuck were you takin?? ghb makes you feel great, it gives you the most refreshing sleep ever, you sleep soundly and get up in 4 hours feeling like you slept 8 hours!

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I'm confused here, it's been said in this post that this stuff is used to knock you the fuck out, but also used by partiers to keep them up all night long.....this doesn't make any fucking sense!!!!


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Jakethemus: THAT INFO THAT YOU GIVE IS OUTDATED!!!

My friend got busted for simple possession and got 3 yrs probation.
PEOPLE IT IS ILLEGAL TO POSSESS GHB!!

Also this stuff is not addictive if you just take it here and there. But if you take it for an extend period of time you can get hooked easy. It's not the same kind of addiction you get with heroin.

BigPhysics:
Partiers take a certain dosage to feel good while they are out partying. But if you go over this CERTAIN dosage you will easily fall asleep. Dosage will depend on your bodyweight.


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quote:
Originally posted by Slopain:
[B]what the fuck were you takin?? ghb makes you feel great, it gives you the most refreshing sleep ever, you sleep soundly and get up in 4 hours feeling like you slept 8 hours!

Friends of mine claim to have the same experiences as you, Slopain. With the same stuff!! Strange...

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Freak Monster -
It may be illegal where you are but its not where I am (UK).


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Jake:
Ahh that explains it. Your overseas.


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I removed the outdated info btw.


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Where can i get gamma butyrolactone to make GHB? that is all i am lacking! I will then be able to make it! Let me know

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There are pre-made GHB manufacturing kits available somewhere on the web...

Try a good search engine like altavista or raging.com to find it, I tried w/ yahoo! and aol and couldn't find it.

I am 100% sure these exist though, I have seen photos.

Good luck, read up and be careful!


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1, 4 butanediol IS ILLEGAL in the U.S. it is federally regulated. GBL: gamma butyrolactone is the same exact substance as 1,4 butanediol.

there are GHB kits still available from other countries. BUT!!! they will without a doubt be seized by customs.

GHB is a scapegoat used by the DEA, and FDA. you will likely be punished for any attempt in aquiring this substance.


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*also... there is no "all purpose cleaner" available in the U.S. that uses GBL.

GBL is illegal period, for human consumption, for cleaning purposes, etc. etc.


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GHB is also covered under new Date-Rape Drug laws and that means it carries an additional penalty, if you get caught.

I believe the manufacture kits I saw were domestic but maybe that's illegal now too. Everything with GHB has happened so recently that you can't keep on top of it or know what to beleive or not...

Any one actually searches and finds kits on the net lemmee know, I don't wanna order but I am interested in that kind of thing and would wanna look.

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To 1Mistake: I've ordered 1-4 from a few places online and never had a problem. The famous kit maker even sells the stuff as DNP stain remover and he has been under a lot of scrutiny for his business by authorities. If they could have busted him for selling 1-4 they would have. And i'm not talking about any guidelines have you read the actual federal statute. Here is an excerpt of the schedule one Federal Law

Schedule I - Sec. 1308.11...

E. Depressants.

Unless specifically excepted or unless listed in another schedule, any material, compound, mixture, or preparation which contains any quantity of the following substances, having a depressant effect on the central nervous system, including its salts, isomers, and salts of isomers whenever the existence of such salts, isomers, and salts of isomers is possible within the specific chemical designation:

(1) gamma-hydroxybutyric acid
(some other names include GHB; gamma-hydroxybutyrate; 4-hydroxybutyrate; 4-hydroxybutanoic acid; sodium oxybate; sodium oxybutyrate) 2010
(2) Mecloqualone 2572
(3) Methaqualone 2565

Although GBL(gamma butyrlactone) isn't listed specifically it is chemically considered a salt of GHB.
And 1-4 Butanediol is not federally scheduled according to all the information I have seen about it. As i said before it may be shceduled in some states. Which is why you might have been arested for selling it.


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From what I have heard regarding drug law and the practice of outlawing a drug and all of it's isomers, salts, etc. (i.e. designer drugs) you technically can but in practice won't get busted for buying a substance not specifically named on a schedule.

Sellers/producers, however, need to look out.


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my expereince w/ GHB. in 1988 it was still legal, i heard that it was used to sleep and release GH, cuz it puts you in to REM sleep FAST! it did, knocked me on my ass, didnt wake up to clearly though, once drank2 beers w/ it..and almost passed out and had my girl drive me home! i didnt care for it for bodybuilding and didnt care for it for partying wither. I would expect the most dangerous part is that these days its "bath tub batched" and you dont know the qulaity/potency. there aer some sites that explain how to make it, which would seem best since you have some control over it. I've seen alot of fools get wrecked anfd hurt themselves on it.. here is a funny one. at one party, this guy oput alot in this guys drink so he could hit on his woman, once he passed out, he pout a little in her drink and fucked the hell out of her.. the guy woike up and cracked a bottle over the guys head!!


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Damn Momwurndu:
If some guy did that to my girl he would be one dead MOFO!!!


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how many cc�s do you guys take before sleep and how much is 1 cap?


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