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Jeremy

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posted November 25, 2000 11:56 PM

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What's up!
I was sent to this board from my coach when I approached him about juice. I'm a collegiate athlete and I'm going to take some Dbol tabs to initiate growth. Not looking to get into injection or stacking cycles. Just lookin to down some Dbol tabs. I understand lots of water retention comes with Dbol. My questions are:
1.) How many Dbol tabs should I be taking a day/week for one cycle. Looking for strength and mass. Please take other questions into consideration.
2.) I don't want people to notice that I'm juicin...What can I do to eliminate questions?
3.) When and how much clomid should I take.
4.) Is their anything else I should do?

Thanks for all the help you guys offer. I will def be in touch.

-Jeremy


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KODIAK99

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posted November 26, 2000 12:00 AM

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1) Go to Amazon.com and order a book named 'Anabolics 2000'.
2) Go to the top of the page and click SEARCH. Type in DBol, Doses, Cycles, or anyother variation of your question and you will be overwhelmed with the number of answers already on the board.
3) Go back to your coach and tell him to fuck off.
4) Good luck and a dbol cycle is just about worthless. (great pump for about 4-5 weeks) See you after the crash. . .HINT.

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ghans

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posted November 26, 2000 12:03 AM

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Agree with Kodiac99. You'll want to stack the dbol to keep anything worthwhile from it.

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Zeacky

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posted November 26, 2000 01:10 AM

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Bro if you refuse to inject, then juice is not for you.

Sorry to that....I was the same way.

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slabcat

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posted November 26, 2000 01:20 AM

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Listen to Kodiak. I'm also a coach and would never tell my players to just "down some dbol". Plus if you don't want people to know your doing them, you might as well not. Juice isn't something to be taken lightly bro. Stick around and read everything on the board for a few weeks. Use the search feature often. Learn for yourself what you think you want to do. Steroids aren't a magic drug with no consequences. If you do something wrong there's the possibility of being fucked up forever. Be patient and good luck.

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WCP

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posted November 26, 2000 02:08 AM

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Well, if all you say is true...its only smart of your coach to send you here.

Now, only cause Im experimenting on my guitar player with his first cycle, dbol only! I have to say I disagree with what is posted above.

I had him on a 6 week, 30mg dbol daily cycle, and he gained a total of 16lbs, and thus far 3 1/2 weeks post cycle has kept a solid 12.

12lbs my bros is nothing to laugh at.
With the proper use maint. drugs, I think a majority of gains can easilly be kept.

and NO that dont excuse cycles from using test!

My .02
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ghans

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posted November 26, 2000 02:26 AM

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What? WCP, email me. I'd like to pick your brain on this.

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LivinLarger

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posted November 26, 2000 03:06 PM

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If you are going to get in this game, you will have to take shots, period. I felt the same way when I started, now I look foreward to the next one. I researched for over a year before jumping into the sauce, don't be in such a hurry.


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LivinLarger

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posted November 26, 2000 03:08 PM

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One more thing, if I did not want others to know I was juicing, Dbol would be one of my LAST choices, next to Abombs.


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Natymike

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posted November 26, 2000 03:35 PM

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If you don't want people to notice, then you will prevent yourself from gaining anything. Besides, D-bol only won't do shit, I'd know from experience.

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Beezers

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posted November 26, 2000 03:46 PM

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I am completely baffled here. What is the point of juicing if you don't want people to notice. Last time I checked that was the whole point of AS. Be it to better your physique or better your performance the point is for people to notice. WTF??? If your a bodybuilder AS is used to enhance muscualrity.......to noticeable amounts. If you're an athlete the point of AS is to better your performance, speed, and strenght.....so your opponent notices. Apperantly I'm missing something.

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8UP

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posted November 26, 2000 04:21 PM

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Hey Jeremy..tell your coach to stick it! Learn what the hell you are getting into before you do it. And On your #2 you aren't juicing so don't worry.You'll lose all your gains off the D anyway.Not a flame , just giving you a heads up just like the other brothers on the board.I know you want to improve performance and you want immediate results..especailly with your stupid ass coach pushing you..but don't hurt yourself in the process!

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Jeremy

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posted November 26, 2000 04:33 PM

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Well, maybe it was a mistake coming to this board, considering the amount of hot aired "bro's". This board should be about advice, not a bunch of "bro's" trying to out wit each other with a more asinine response. ---
To the fellow who didn't quite understand my question, "What can I do so people won't know I'm juicin."- That refers to the massive water retention and bloated look I will assume after a few weeks. Will clomid do the trick? ----
Next, it's not a matter of me being afraid of injection, it's a matter of me fucking myself up in the process. It is very difficult to inject oneself, especially for a newbie.---
I'm not going to turn to a lifestyle of AS, I'm trying to see what (ONE -UNO- 1 ) cycle of Dbol tabs will do to my body. -Am I looking for strength and mass gains- YES, do I want to look like the next guy on the cover of muscle magazine and a limp dick..-NO.----

I have learned a very important fact from reading this board though. Whatever recommended dosage you guys use, cut it down by 50% and I should be fine.

I'll be back in a month, we'll talk then.
Thanks to the people who stuck their neck out and had intelligent responses!

-Jeremy


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8UP

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posted November 26, 2000 04:51 PM

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Believe it or not Bro..you are only getting constructive critisism..relax and take note of what the fellas have to say.You are new here and it sounds like you have some research to do..This is the right place to be..Just observe, ask ?, and use the search and you'll get it.You say that you are just using Dbol..what does your "cycle" look like? Just curious

-8UP-

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Scooter

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posted November 26, 2000 06:14 PM

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If you are worried about taking AS and having it effect your life then don't start.

One constant thing you hear (whether AAS was good or bad experience for a specific person) is that it was a lifestyle choice. Treat the decision as a serious one.

Down to specifics...as some one who has NOT yet taken the plunge, I would say DBOL should be at the BOTTOM of your list. Some of the vets here have of course already told you this.

DBOL has some of the most noticable sides (fast gains, water retention, etc). From those I have talked with who have taken DBOL, at least half raved about what a great feeling it gave them....strong feeling of euphoria, well being, etc. Combine that with post cycle crash and you have a compound that is very easy to start abusing if it is your 1st AAS used.

What is your sport? You say you want mass and strength. Is speed important? How near your natural potential are you (This is a polite way of asking how strong of a base you have built) Give more info and you will get more suggestions...

In any case do your research, do it right, or don't do it at all.


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devistator2

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posted November 26, 2000 07:03 PM

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If I was in your position I would try a few amps of Primobolin if you can find it. Dbol is a waste unless you have something to cut up all the water it makes you hold and plus I am sure if you take too many you are going to look like a tub of shit. I am not "bs"'n like some of the guys responses just giving you advice from someone who has done a few roids in his life.


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winstrol69

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posted November 26, 2000 08:00 PM

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JESUS!! ANSWER HIS QUESTIONS
1) take 6 a day
2) tell people your on nitrotech, cell-tech etc
3)take 1 clomid a day for 14 days after you stop the d-bol.
4) get some milk thistle and nolvadex.

Kodiak your full of it, I did d-bol only with clomid at the end and kept 18 pounds.


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bbigman2000

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posted November 26, 2000 08:27 PM

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Bro,
There is some serious answers to be met before, you
go ahead, if you use the search feature you will get bags
of advice from the guys here who really know the subject.
If you are looking for enhanced athletic performance, I
think you should look towards some deca or primo, or
even stack your dbol with the deca.
Injecting is a piece of cake, check out :- www.angelfire.com
for info on that.
If you really want to go with the dbol alone, I would go with
6 aday, but on its own you will lose most of the weight you gain.
Would like to see the rage you get in with some real gear !!!!!

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Spunky

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posted November 26, 2000 08:33 PM

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whoa.. slow down brothers. I did great off of dbols alone for my 1st cycle. I kept my protein high, used about 6 tabs a day for 6-7 weeks. I can't remember the exact #'s but I kept a little over 16lbs and I didn't hold much water at all. Of course now i've finally taken the leap and moved on to injections.. but for a first cycle, dbol is nothing to sneeze at.


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Deppnade

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posted November 27, 2000 05:14 AM

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sus 1000 a week for 12 weeks, dbol 50mg day for 10 weeks, eq 700 week for 12 weeks, add some winny at end, fina, GH, slin, maybe some clen, and some clomid and arimidex
if ur a newbie expect 50 lbs, and keep 46, i did this as my 1rst cycle, i am now 40 lbs heavier and dont worry, no one can tell i did steroids, except for the fact that none of my clothes fit, i have more acne then a teenage boy, and my balls shrank to peanuts, disregarding the 3 inch stetch marks

seriously, if ur gonna do steroids, DO THEM RIGHT!!!!!! dont mess around

i am with you bro, i play college sports, 1 aa football, i am gonna do my first cycle in a week or so, and im gonna do it right,
get some test, whether it be sus, aratest which is what i am getting more bang for buck, 300 dbols, and deca or eq, personally i need eq cause i get piss tested and i aint shoving nothing in my MAN JUNK to pass a test like LATTIMER!!!!!
before you do anything to harm yourself, read read read!!!!!!

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Jae

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posted November 27, 2000 09:12 AM

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I am with Beezers on this one. Why juice if you don't want people to notice? Damn, don't waste your time otherwise.


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Eminem

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posted November 27, 2000 03:48 PM

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Everyone is getting pissed at one another why? I mean shit everyone reacts differently, no ones body is the same i mean i have heard both sides some have managed to keep there gains , while others have lost most of them. The best thing to do is try it out in my mind, no need to call one another a liar etc.. You learn from your mistakes


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posted November 27, 2000 04:23 PM

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Holy shit. You're a I-AA football player subject to possible NCAA drug testing and you are thinking of using Deca????!!!!

Wow, bro. I hope you know something that you're not telling, like you have a guarantee you wont be tested. Deca is detectable 18 MONTHS after the last injection.

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gymratpa

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posted November 27, 2000 06:27 PM

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StoneCold is right.
Why not try a quick anavar, lots of power, no gyno, bloat.
In-Out burgers are not as fast.

Ya I know anavar is $$$, but ... even a good ho cost money


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waterboy

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posted November 27, 2000 07:57 PM

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the ones who will know your on it will be the ones who are on it them selfs or know allot about it.The ones who arent on it u can feed them a big line of bullshit and they will eat it up .the people in your gym who know u might be able 2 tell .Look i dont think any one who gets big will bitch about getting big or they would not be doing roids.I think when u get big u wont give a fuck about others if they know fuck it half of them are on it half your gym is on it and u might not know.i just found out 10 people at my gym the ymca are poking darts in there arses.

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giantset

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posted November 27, 2000 08:13 PM

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Jeremy, get the anabolics 2000 book, read up and do some searches in the archives. You will learn 1000 times more by doing this than by posting a few questions. Don't just pop a few dbol without learning anything. Half of the football team back in high school popped some anadrols on and off and in the end almost 100% of them ended up just as small as when they started since they didn't know what they hell they were doing. Get with some of the big guys on your team and find out some about gear from them as well. Good luck.

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posted November 27, 2000 10:44 PM

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Ok, the circumstances of your situation aside:

Take 2 dbol every 4 hours, and yes it means waking up once a night.

Hiding it easy. Don't tell anyone, don't lie and tell them it's some new creatine.Tell them the gains are the result of hard work.
If someone accuses you of takin steroids based on the appearance of water retention, then who cares what they think.

To combat water retention drink lots of water.

Now on to the circumstances:
If you have a coach who is telling you to use steroids without providing you with a doctor to monitor your health or simply give you advice on how to use it, then he's not fit to be a coach.


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timac

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posted November 27, 2000 10:54 PM

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oh my goodness.

NO INJECTIONS-------NO JUICE



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Hugh Gellatts

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posted November 27, 2000 11:26 PM

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1) take 6 a day
2) tell people your on nitrotech, cell-tech etc

During my last cycle I was often found loudly proclaiming the great merits of Androsol and how it put 20lbs on my frame. Funny thing is a bunch of the suckers went out and bought the crap!


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waterboy

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posted November 28, 2000 10:23 PM

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hugh g is right u can tell the ones who have no clue that u started eating fruit loops and it put 20 pounds on u .


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waterboy

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posted November 28, 2000 10:24 PM

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hugh g is right u can tell the ones who have no clue that u started eating fruit loops and it put 20 pounds on u .i say go for sust 250 at 500m/g a week


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Taco Maplethorpe

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posted November 29, 2000 02:02 AM

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What kind of a fucking coach do you have at your college?
If you really want to gain something then you will have to inject. Besides it's much better for your liver and you see better gains.
As for people noticing, go buy some glutamine, liquid creatine, or andro. Also some new weight gainer and LET EVERYONE SEE YOU TAKING IT. That's what I did when I was 18 and still lived in my parents house. Anytime I was with someone I bragged on how much 2500 calorie weight gainer I was taking.
It really seemed to work. And when I came off my cycle and lost the water weight I told them I was all out of supplements and I needed to go buy some more. It seemed to work.


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