I used to hit it at least 1 hour before my workout and usually tried for 2 hours before. Never hit it after, just a personal opinion, didn't feel I needed it, and much of what I have read on it lead me to believe, elevating you test level pre workout is the most important thing, letting it decline the rest of the day can be good for the body. Not sure if its true, but its the way I've gone about it. . .good luck, sounds like a good cycle with some strong anabolics.