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Elite Bodybuilder 
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This was posted on my board and ill post it here: Most people believe that test is test. From what I know this is mostly true. But the argument about sust is that it has a time released effect thus keeping test levels steadily rising. From all i have learned the longer acting esters bond to the receptor sites and then release the test in due time. It seems to me that the longer acting esters are just blocking up the receptors. With a faster acting ester the test gets in uses the receptors then is gone. Plus with this the body gets a huge increase in test all at once so the receptors arent already accomidated to the test as when waiting for the sust to "kick" in. Just speculation http://pub33.ezboard.com/bburnboy ------------------ "I used to be a diabetic 'till i kicked it." "May all of your showers be golden." - Jerri Blank "I cried when I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. Then I laughed...really hard." [This message has been edited by Burnboy (edited November 24, 2000).]     | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 480 |
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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 134 |
I get an error with your link | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 738 |
bump ------------------ "I "May all of your showers be golden." - Jerri Blank "I cried when I had no shoes, until I met a man who had no feet. Then I laughed...really hard." | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 64 |
1996 World Anabolic Review: Sustanon is a mixture of four differnt compounds; Test prop., Test phenylpropionate, Testisocaproate, and Test decoate, which based on a well timed composition have a synergetic effect. There are two positive charactoristic effects for the athlete. First based on the special combination effect of the compounds, Sustanon milligram for milligram, has a better effect than test cyp or test enan alone. Second the effect of the four tests is timed released so that sust goes rapidly in your system and remains there for several weeks. Due to the propionate sust is effective after one day and with the others remains active for several weeks. It also results in less water retention than both test cyp and enan. Well suited to build up strength and mass. [This message has been edited by newt (edited November 24, 2000).] | ||
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Cool Novice 
Posts: 12 |
What would you think of Testosterone with no ester? Would this be any good? | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 450 |
Test with no esther=Testosterone Suspension-vert quick-acting and potent... ------------------ | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 506 |
The ester only dictates the release rate from the depot, in this instance, oil. Propionate moves from the oil at a faster rate than enanthate. When it is released from the oil vehicle, the ester is rapidly hydrolyzed into free test...so when it comes out of the oil matrix, you are essentially left with test. | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder
Posts: 586 |
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong here, but the test won't bind to the receptors until it has been released from its ester. Once the test releases from the ester it enters the blood stream in its chemical form then by means of the blood as a transport makes its way to its alocated receptor sites. Until the ester is cleaved off the test is dormant and can not bond to a receptor. It basically is inactive and only active test can occupy the receptors. Only a specific chemical structure can occupy an acompanying receptor. In this case only the androgen testosterone in its chemical structure(C19H28O2) can bind to its allocated receptors. The addition of an ester temporarily changes the chemical make- up until it is cleaved off and all that is left is the testosterone. I beleive that the test and its ester float about aimlessly in the blood until the test is released from the ester and it can be recognized by its corresponding receptors. Thus receptors won't be wasted by inactive gear as this theory states. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 179 |
Yeah, the true value of sust is for old guys on T replacement, they don't have to take as many shots to maintain a constant blood level of free test. If you are a bb you have to take to many shots anyway. BBer's are blowing their money buying sust when they can get enthanate for much less per gram. No test ester does anything until it is out of oil, in blood, has the ester removed(within an hour of disolving into blood)and is thus a free test molecule. So test enthanate, sust, are inert oils. The active drug, free test, is identical in each, but you get a lot fewer grams for your dollar with sust. Buyer beware! |
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posted November 24, 2000 01:14 AM