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Amateur Bodybuilder 
Posts: 217 |
I am a 34-year-old male, weight 200lbs, 5-11, BF 15%. I finished my first Cycle four weeks ago and am planning my second and third cycles. My first Cycle was very light � wanted to evaluate how my body would respond prior to moving into heavier dosages. I also seem to respond positively to light dosages of gear. I gained 12 lbs and keep 10 lbs. on the following cycle: Week��Deca��.�Primo���.Sustanon Since I am affected easily by AS, I got Deca Dick after the third week. Don�t ask why I increase week 3 primo to 200. I was getting inpatient Now to the meat and potato�s. This is where I need your help. I need advise I would also like your insight on pyramiding the Deca. I have seen 2thick Cycle 2 � looking for at least 20 lbs. � main goal is to bulk up high calorie Week�.Deca��...Sustanon Considering a Keto Diet in between cycles Cycle 3 � looking for about 5-10 lbs � main goal is to harden and cut up Week��Primo�........�....Winny����..Sustanon Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.     | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 116 |
lokks great to me bro | ||
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Pro Bodybuilder 
Posts: 345 |
If you can afford it bro I would start the sust off at 500mgs / wk and keep it constant throughout. Some people dont believe in tapering some do. On Sust I dont think its neccesary. I would suggest upping the deca, I dont believe deca dick will be a problem due to the sust. Start the Clomid 10 days after last sust shot for 3 wks. Week�.Deca��...Sustanon......Clomid ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
WPC, E2, Huck, Animal B, Mav, 2thick...Where are you...would appriciate your input [This message has been edited by DSPO (edited November 25, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 151 |
Well, I'm not E2, but I think I can give you some help with the test. Best is to start high to hit the receptors hard so you'll get more results. I don't think it's neccesary to taper the sust, because it's self- tapering. Just my 2 cents. ------------------ | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder 
Posts: 1261 |
take the deca at 400mg throughout, deca is self tapering, no need to pyramid. Besides if your want to taper you should start high, then work your way down, no pyramid. Peace. ------------------ | ||
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Moderator 
Posts: 1376 |
I'm with the others,begin with hight dosis,and if you exp.. with the deca dick,and you worry about that,then change the deca for eq(I love Ultragan). This is a good cicle Ultrgan-sust-Anavar You gain some good muscle without a lot of water.No problem with deca dick.Anything else e-mail me. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
Thanks quenepo You have mail | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 271 |
no need to taper the sus, GO at least 500mg for the whole cycle.looks good bro | ||
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 684 |
I agree, start doses high at the beginning and keep them constant throughout. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
Here are the adjustments that I have made based on your input: Week...Sustanon......Deca........Clomid [This message has been edited by DSPO (edited November 25, 2000).] | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1842 |
Deca is not self tapering.. I like the cycle you just put up but I would throw 30-50mg of dbol in for the first 4 weeks. I would extend the deca for 2 weeks past the sust usage, and dont start your post cycle clomid use until 2 weeks after your last injection, I say this due to the half life of sust. Sust on the other hand will taper itself off, so there is no need to taper the last week of this. Good Luck, ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
Thanks WCP Unfortunately I do not have any more Deca. I have added the Dbol and some Winstrol at the end of the cycle. I have modified the cycle as follows: As well 50 mg of Clomid EOD during whole cycle. 50mg/day of Clomid week 13 The Deca shot once a week the Sust shot every 3 days, and the Dbol take EVERY 4 HOURS including nighttime. [This message has been edited by DSPO (edited November 26, 2000).] | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2251 |
I like the last one you put above. Except, where it says "winny" all you have underneath it is "100". Do you mean 100 EOD? If so that would be perfect and I wouldn't change a thing. The whole tapering dbol thing is really preference, so you don't have to do it. But I know that a few people have done a taper where you taper down from 6 pills per day to one pill per day in one weeks time by dropping a pill per day (until you hit 0 pills/day). If you were to do this do it in week 5. This seems to work pretty good and it also means you can keep the doses at 30 mg/day throughout the five weeks without being concerned about a huge crash. Of course, you don't have to taper, but doing a mini taper like this will help to avoid a crash after the dbol. Good Luck. [This message has been edited by Maverik (edited November 26, 2000).] | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
Maverik, Yes I ment 100mg/EOD for the Winny. Is this what the 5th week of Dbol would look like? 1.....30mg Thanks for taking the time. Finally, what did you decide on for your cycle back in June and the results? | ||
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Moderator
Posts: 1842 |
Using the test, and deca, as well as winny at the end dont even worry about tapering the dbol..
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Elite Bodybuilder
Posts: 1042 |
I like the last cycle. . .sounds like you'll have better gains and I agree with the idea of not tapering. . .just a waste and more to worry about. ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 132 |
keep it as it is, with dbol not tapered, by the time ur off the dbol the test is gonna kick in what is your reasoning for winny in that cycle? ------------------ | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
I am taking the winny to cut down on the water retention, solidify my gains, harden up at end and to prevent any Gyno coming from the Deca. | ||
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Guru
Posts: 2251 |
DSPO, here are the results of that bulking cycle: http://www.elitefitness.com/ubb/Archives/Forum1/08-2000/026190.html The only thing not included in that post is that I took dbol at 5 per day for the first 5 weeks. Like, I said above, I DO NOT taper my dbol. But I knew someone would probably say to taper it, so that idea about tapering in one week was just an option. I definitely would not taper the whole way through like some people do. Anyways, good luck with it. | ||
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Amateur Bodybuilder
Posts: 217 |
Iron Brotherhood, I would like to thank all the bros that provided positive input to the creation of this cycle. I would also like to take the time to give a special thanks to WCP, E2, quenepo and Maverik for their special assistance. DSPO |
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posted November 23, 2000 11:06 AM
