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big calvin

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posted November 22, 2000 09:17 PM

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ok i think most of you know my condition.im about to get cytomel and clen by this week end but the thing is im on a very low carb diet(45g). and i was told by someone that low carbs and t3 dont mix, but then someone else says i dont have to worry about it cause im so overweight. would i eat up muscle just useing t3/clen? if you dont remember im 17 6' tall and about 420-425 pounds. at 52-53% bodyfat. i take sythroid already but i wanted to try t3, would all this be ok?

please help me out.

ohh this is how the cycle would look:

wk:...t3...clen...adipo
1.....1....2-6
2.....2....6
3.....3...........6
4.....2...........6
5.....1....2-6
6..........6
7.................6
8.................6

clen 2 days on 2 days off.

thanks,
calvin


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Hacker

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posted November 22, 2000 09:23 PM

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You might want to run this by your doctor. I would be worried about your bp. I remember your other post. If you take t3 without AS then you will lose muscle.


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Badkins21

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posted November 22, 2000 09:26 PM

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Bro, I'd run the clen (AND I THINK I AGREE THAT YOU SHOULD DISCUSS THIS WITH YOUR DOCTOR...) for 2 straight weeks, then 2 off...instead of 2 days on, 2 days off...just my 2 cents, that's pretty much the concensus of what I've read/heard and what I'll be doing...HAVE A HAPPY THANKSGIVING, stay focused...you're already on the right track, now all you have to do is follow it!

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Decaman

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posted November 22, 2000 10:33 PM

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I don't like it, you cardiovacular system is probably not up to par, no flame bro, but if half your body is fat, it can't be. Now i don't know if you have a medical condition but my advice to you is to first and foremost run this all by your doctor, and if at all possible, lose some of that weight with as little added stress to your heart as possible.

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Maverik

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posted November 22, 2000 10:44 PM

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I have to agree with decaman here. If you are that far overweight, chances are you are in very poor cardiovascular health. And taking clen when you are in very poor cardiovascular health can be very dangerous. The T3 will be fine. But, have you tried a keto diet yet??


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big calvin

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posted November 22, 2000 10:49 PM

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thanks everone....yeah i tend to feel better on keto diets then the traditional diet. sence you guys didnt like the clen would e/c/y stack be fine?

thanks again


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Maverik

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posted November 22, 2000 10:53 PM

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I don't even know about that. If anything, don't go over the recommended dose on the label. Stick to keto and t3.


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big calvin

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posted November 22, 2000 10:58 PM

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thanks bro.......and the t3 and keto wont eat to mcuh muscle right?


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Maverik

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posted November 22, 2000 11:04 PM

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Here is a recent article on thyroid drugs. In the article, they state that low doses of T3 (50 mcgs per day) didn't cause a noticeable loss in LBM. Enjoy!: http://pub33.ezboard.com/ftherealjspadfrm1.showMessage?topicID=62.topic


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Maverik

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posted November 22, 2000 11:06 PM

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There are three pages so make sure you read them all. Very good article.


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big calvin

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posted November 22, 2000 11:13 PM

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thank you man, youve helped me out alot.

but the site wount let me get on, im a member but it says its a private forum. how can i get on?

[This message has been edited by big calvin (edited November 22, 2000).]


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sasben

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posted November 23, 2000 02:17 AM

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Bro,

I have a mate (NO NOT ME) who was in the same predicament as you. 46% BF i think. He was 18.

Keto Diet with a small cheat on weekends. ie chocolate bar etc during carb loading.

We started Weights, 12-15 Rep, 3 sets, 6 sets per body part. 90 Seconds rest between sets, 3 day split. M, W, F.

After 3 weeks, we started cardio after weigths, just 20 mins and heartrate at only 120-140.

After 3 more weeks, we hit cardio in the morning AFTER the weight workouts. T, Th, Sat. 30 mins with HR around 130-150bpm.
We kept the cardio after the gym going but upped the time to 30 mins and 130-150bpm.

He ws down to 40% at this time.

He then used T3 cycling from 25mcg for 4 days and every four days going up 25mcg more untill 100mcg and cycling back down as usual.

Cardio was same, diet was same.

10 weeks later, looked like a new person, is now doing t3 at 12.5 mcg a day. I would say by the 20 week mark, he was down to 20-25% BF, a huge improvment.

I should check up on how he is going now.

Personally i think T3 is only bad for muscle catabolism WHEN you have a LBM which is high for your body to keep without the calories.

I dont think your body will catabolise muscle that it NEEDS to run.

Get lean, then get huge! (muscular sense)

Good luck.
Sas.



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Maverik

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posted November 23, 2000 12:58 PM

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Damn, I forgot about that. I'll see what I can do to get it posted on this thread. Stay tuned....


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Maverik

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posted November 23, 2000 01:11 PM

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Maverik

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posted November 23, 2000 01:13 PM

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And you be better be thankful! J/K! But seriously, I had no idea how to find out the properties of a pic or how to post it or anything. So I figured it out just for your readiing pleasure. Enjoy!


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d1734

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posted November 23, 2000 01:21 PM

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thanks for the article, good read.


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big calvin

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posted November 23, 2000 01:49 PM

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thanks man, im very greatfull.

thanks again to everyone.


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Krusher

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posted November 23, 2000 02:46 PM

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Nice work Mav.

Best of luck to you Big Calvin.


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dickie

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posted November 23, 2000 06:08 PM

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nice work mav thanks for the good info, I have been considering using t3, I think I will!!


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Maverik

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posted November 23, 2000 06:24 PM

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Actually, I can't take the credit for it. Freshr1 is the one who found and posted the article at therealj's board so he is the one to thank. Thanks, Freshr1!!!


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