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Asia the Invincible

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posted November 22, 2000 02:18 PM

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Ok,

I've decided that I'll be the friggin' guinea pig. I think I gonna start off with the 25 mg pills, or should I go for the 200mg? YOu think everyday will be good?

Before I try, I want to ask this. HEre is what I understand. The shit will block progesterone and also glucocorticosteroids (thus preventing muscle catabolism). Now THIS is what I want to know. Will it also make you HARDER? For example, Nolvadex will make you harder as the lowered estrogen level will cause less water retention, fat storage etc. I was just wondering if progesterone had the same effects, or if it was just a cause for gyno.

Please let me know.
and SLOPAIN, Please e-mail me.


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Badkins21

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posted November 22, 2000 02:21 PM

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Good luck, I'm anxious to see how it works, 'cause I really want to use deca eventually but won't unless I can get winny, too, and that's gonna get expensive...how much are you paying??

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Asia the Invincible

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posted November 22, 2000 02:28 PM

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Come on guys, you gotta help me out. Help me find some of the answers from above ok??

Also, other than what I asked above, I wanna know if the anti-progestrigenic action of RU486 will compromise the effectiveness of progestrogenic steroids like Anadrol and Deca. I hear that anadrol exerts its anabolic activity through progestrogenic pathways. never understood it but I heard it. Will someone please explain it to me?


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winstrol69

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posted November 22, 2000 03:16 PM

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I wouldn't touch the stuff, what if it make you piss out sperm or some shit like that!


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Recoome

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posted November 22, 2000 03:24 PM

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I would start off low and build up if I sense any side effects coming on. This would be good to see what kind of gains Anadrol really gives. How much Deca will you be using?


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rainhorn

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posted November 22, 2000 03:33 PM

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yes,definitly start low and watch your body learn how it react to incresing dosage.


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andre

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posted November 22, 2000 04:02 PM

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i'll bump for the experience'd sake...


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Bignick12345

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posted November 22, 2000 04:06 PM

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I dont think any BB has used it cause it just came out for women to use.
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Asia the Invincible

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posted November 22, 2000 04:43 PM

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What's so bad about pissing out sperm??


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Slopain

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posted November 22, 2000 04:45 PM

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lol Asia check your mail I got back at you, I think this will be a learning experience for everyone, updates are a must!

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CLEMDOG

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posted November 22, 2000 04:49 PM

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good luck bro, and keep us updated.

As far as how often you should take it, you need to find out the half life of the drug in the body to be able to estimate the most effective dosing schedule.


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 22, 2000 04:50 PM

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Asia-Unfortunately,the answers to your questions don't yet exist,as no one has had access to this drug yet to experiment with these combinations.WE WILL BE LEARNING THE EFFECTS FROM YOU...LOL!!


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Asia the Invincible

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posted November 22, 2000 04:56 PM

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Yeah, I know no one has tried it yet, but I thought we can work as a think tank and with research find what we THINK is the right dose, usage etc. I mean, people didn't know how much sust to take at first.

I will try it out but I ain't gonna be like,
"RU486...duh!!!". Ok? I gotta find out as much about it as possible first. I'm doing research on my end. BUt just thought you guys can help, if not with answers, maybe some theories??


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Okay,theoretically speaking,yes it will most likely give you a "hardening effect"as it will probably eliminate progestogenic bloating.Given that,it may very well compromise some of the benificial aspects as well.For instance,a good deal of anadrol's power come from its ability to store intra-muscular fat.How much of this that's dependent on its progestogenic influences is unknown.You need to figure out the formula that falls somewhere in between-just enough to eliminate the bloat/gyno without cutting drastically into the strongpoints of their effects on muscular performance.Its going to take some playing around with the dosages,and if I were you,I'd keep a daily written log that you can jot observations down on.This way you can look back on your notes and figure at which dosage you seemed to be achieving IDEAL results....


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Asia the Invincible

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When you say that it will compromisethe effet of the anadrol, from your reasoning, I take it that you mean that strength will be compromised. But supposing that building max muscle and MINIMUM fat (physique enhancement) is the goal, would it really be such a problem?

I know you may say that the reduced strength leads to less intense workouts etc. etc. and thus indirectly lead to less muscle growth. Ok. But how about any DIRECT influences it may have on muscle growth?


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Pi Kappa Phi

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posted November 22, 2000 05:45 PM

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good luck, bro. i sure wouldnt do it!


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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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Theoretically speaking,I don't think progesterone is responsible for accelerating protein synthesis to any great degree,so you should still have some nice growth via that route.Just the explosive strength would be effected somewhat,as intra-muscular fat can be drawn upon for leverage.What you'll most likely get are QUALITY gains,much like when you stack arimidex alongside test.


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Asia the Invincible

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posted November 22, 2000 06:14 PM

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GRIN... THat Sounds exactly what I want. I don't get laid much when I'm bloated.

So your reasoning is that it will probably affect your gains much like nolva supposedly cuts into your gains right? I never have that problem with nolva, so I probably won't have it with ru486 I think.

Hey we gotta come up with a more affectionate name for that drug.



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HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex

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posted November 22, 2000 06:17 PM

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I would say in theory,yes,it should be somewhat comparable to nolvadex...There's only one way to find out the true answers,hehheh....


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BigPhysicsBastard

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posted November 22, 2000 06:21 PM

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Fetuskiller?...I know, bad joke:-)


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ArnoldWannaBe

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posted November 22, 2000 09:09 PM

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Look at it this way, at least you won't get pregnant!!


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DREXX

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ASIA: I really wouldn't want to be in your shoes.

My girl is still in College and had a presentation to prepare so I told her to do it on Ru-486 since it's a cool subject. Of course she looked up the info on it's intended use.

Do you know that more than a few woman have died from taking 1 200mg pill?

Anyway it's just too risky for me. If you want to try it go ahead.

If I where you I would type in Ru-486 in any search engine and see what it says.

Don't make your decisions based on a bunch of muscle headz assuming

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cockdezl

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First, this is a new drug here in the US, but not so in other countries. There used to be a guy on misc.fitness.weights called lysis who had a good deal of knowledge concerning pharmacology and lived in Greece...I wonder if he is still around. I am sure bodybuilders in Europe who have experimented with it.

Second, progesterone should NOT cause bloating. Progesterone actually has a diuretic effect, due to its effects on sodium reabsorption by the kidneys. Oxymetholone is a strange drug and has not YET been shown to be progestagenic...we only assume progestagenicity due to the side effects of gyno, with no known estrogen metabolite, and from studies showing insulin resistance. Bloating can be caused by androgens, since they also increase mineral retention, so bloating may not be limited to estrogens. We need human subjects to give more definitive results on what blocking progesterone can do, HINT HINT WINK WINK.

As for progesterone's effects on protein synthesis, it is catabolic. Early studies on it showed nitrogen excretion in subjects.

Finally, your real concern should be on what RU-486 is going to do to your joints. Remember that this was the main complaint to Cytadren. This is where we are going to find out how useful this drug is going to be for bodybuilding. Who cares if we can gain an extra 2-5lbs off of a cycle, if you can't walk or move your arms because you are blocking the effects of cortisol on the joints.


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Asia the Invincible

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posted November 23, 2000 11:08 PM

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Aww now you're telling me it ain't gonna cause bloating anyway. Fuck it then.


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Donald Smoot

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posted November 24, 2000 01:02 AM

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I have doubts about how useful it is. Being available in Europe many years, if it was that good I think sources would bring some here. After all, A.S. is unavailable in U.S. just as this preg pill was.


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Hugh Gellatts

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posted November 24, 2000 01:08 AM

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what type of price are you getting it for? I mean, is it cheeper than adding 50mg winny ED?


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DREXX

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posted November 24, 2000 05:37 PM

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In canada it cost 300$ to get the bunch of pill necesary for an abortion.

I am of the impression that it is a very expensive drug.

Let us know Asia, how much can you get it for?

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KODIAK99

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posted November 24, 2000 05:48 PM

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Don't get pregnant bro.


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