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Drizzt8

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posted November 21, 2000 09:16 PM

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My best friend/training partner has one hell of a natural physique. Hes about 5'7'', 200lbs - never above 8% bf. Hes competed several times, winning many of the tested shows and placing high in small NPC shows...and I repeat, he IS natural...I stress this cause no one ever believes he is....Hes been training hardcore since he became a Marine at 20...He carries very little bodyfat and gets ripped pretty easy. Besides great genetics, (huge ripped calves/forearms), he obviously has a high natural test. level, hes one of the horniest guys I know, next to me. Now my question....hes finally made the decision to jump to the next level....hes pretty much reached his natural potential....since its my opinion that he has such high test. levels anyway, does this mean that he'll have to take higher than normal dosages to make optimal gains his first time out? He was going to do the following cycle:
Weeks 1-8: 500 sust.
Weeks 1-6 30mg D-bol
Clomid EOD 50mg/100mg ED Weeks 9-10
Nolvadex just in case...
Can anyone make suggestions/give opinions on this?? Up the dosages? Different cycle? Thanks bros....I wanna post some pics of him too...I just got to convince him....


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Beezers

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posted November 21, 2000 09:27 PM

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Looks very good bro. That high test level has me thinking though. Since his body is acustomed to having large quantities of test flowing through it he may need more than the average test level individual. 500mg of suplememted test is the same amount of test in every person but since his T levels are already high there is less of a difference between his natural T levels and the supplemented as compared to someone with lower natural test. It is a more significant increase of T in the person with lower T than higher T. So he just may need a more significant dose to respond well. The cycle looks very good for his first cycle but I might just give 750/wk a try. Still a safe dose but he will respond better.

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Valdez

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posted November 21, 2000 09:36 PM

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stick with 500mg a week of sus. even someone with a high natural test won't have even close to that amount!

5'7" 200lbs, pretty good. I'm 187 right now at 9% (also 5'7") I hope to make to 200 by next couple of NPC shows!


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thermo

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posted November 21, 2000 09:44 PM

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a deca/dbol cycle will be sufficient


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gymratpa

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posted November 22, 2000 09:40 AM

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sus250/750/4;500/2
deca/400/4;200/3
D/3/3

clomid
nova or arma

at 5'7 200 now the guy should max out at 240 with some h20. THATS a lot of extra muscle/h20. Keep cariod in, watch for gyno, h20 etc.


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Drizzt8

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posted November 22, 2000 12:22 PM

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Thanks guys...bump for more opinions please.....


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Recoome

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posted November 22, 2000 02:59 PM

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A genetically gifted person wil simply respond better to steroids than a hardgainer. He won't need more than average.


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